Board index › Topical Discussion › Art, Writing, and Music

The most unautistic music genres/scenes

Page 2 of 3 [ 36 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next

Previous topic | Next topic

naturalplastic
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Age: 71
Gender: Male
Posts: 35,189
Location: temperate zone

19 Nov 2013, 9:57 pm

MaxE wrote:
I think the most NT form of music is hard-core classic American rock of the sort Lee Atwater played (look it up).

I actually like disco. I always preferred it to most rock. Never went to a disco, though. But you certainly don't have to be NT to dress up.


What Lee Atwater was known for playing was the ROOTS of classic rock ( the blues), not classic rock itsself.Along with Belushi and Akroyd ( as the Blues Bros.) he was into keeping alive the music of BBKing, and Muddy Waters, et al. And the Sixties style Memphis and Chicago style soul that was close to the blues.



naturalplastic
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Age: 71
Gender: Male
Posts: 35,189
Location: temperate zone

22 Nov 2013, 5:07 pm

The least 'autistic' kind of music is probably Black Gospel music (kirk franklin, mahalia jackson).


Its about group, and community.

Any kind of medititive music, including Gregorian Chant music, would be the opposite ( religious or not).



Ganondox
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 7 Oct 2011
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Posts: 5,791
Location: USA

23 Nov 2013, 11:09 pm

jamesmb113 wrote:
Granadox,

Perhaps thats a distinction your generation makes.

Back in the day, we either used the terms interchangeably, or designated what the metal you're referring to with the colorful modifier "Heavy f*****g Metal!! !"

The hair metal bands were just referred to as "posers", but there was a certain pecking order


1) Woe to those who lumped Judas Priest in with the hair metal bands.

2) Likewise AC/DC

3)One could definitely listen to the Scorpions and KISS, and still be taken seriously.

4) Motley Crue was mandatory, though a dissenting opinion accorded them poser status with the "Theater of Pain" album.

5) Def Leppard gave you a credibility penalty, but not too much. Definitely not as much as Poison and Europe.

I listen to all of the above, but again., far away from people.

It takes an all time favorite band to get me to a big rock show. I sit and listen as if I were at a Symphony concert.


The important thing here isn't whether it's actually metal or not, but the attitude of the hair bands. AC/DC definitely isn't a glam metal act, but they are still more "NT" than Iron Maiden, and to a lesser extent Judas Priest.


_________________
Cinnamon and sugary
Softly Spoken lies
You never know just how you look
Through other people's eyes

Autism FAQs http://www.wrongplanet.net/postt186115.html


techstepgenr8tion
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 6 Feb 2005
Age: 46
Gender: Male
Posts: 24,697
Location: 28th Path of Tzaddi

01 Dec 2013, 11:38 pm

Probably country. Tough to think of a more social genre :).



ASPartOfMe
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Aug 2013
Age: 68
Gender: Male
Posts: 39,637
Location: Long Island, New York

02 Dec 2013, 8:46 pm

jamesmb113 wrote:
Granadox,

Perhaps thats a distinction your generation makes.

Back in the day, we either used the terms interchangeably, or designated what the metal you're referring to with the colorful modifier "Heavy f*****g Metal!! !"

The hair metal bands were just referred to as "posers", but there was a certain pecking order


1) Woe to those who lumped Judas Priest in with the hair metal bands.

2) Likewise AC/DC

3)One could definitely listen to the Scorpions and KISS, and still be taken seriously.

4) Motley Crue was mandatory, though a dissenting opinion accorded them poser status with the "Theater of Pain" album.

5) Def Leppard gave you a credibility penalty, but not too much. Definitely not as much as Poison and Europe.

I listen to all of the above, but again., far away from people.

It takes an all time favorite band to get me to a big rock show. I sit and listen as if I were at a Symphony concert.


Definitions do change over time. Back then Hair Metal was a derogatory term used to describe the MTV friendly glam metal copycats that came out of the Sunset Strip scene that rose to popularity in late 1980's. Bon Jovi was not considered Hair Metal at all but a pop metal version of Springsteen, coming from New Jersey with working class themes. Now Bon Jovi is scene as a defining Hair Metal act. Def Leapord also now considered a hair metal act was from the UK not LA and played pop metal not glam metal.


_________________
“Self Acceptance is a process not a performance”
“You are autistic enough. And you always have been”

Professionally Identified and joined WP August 26, 2013
DSM 5: Autism Spectrum Disorder, DSM IV: Aspergers Moderate Severity.


ASPartOfMe
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Aug 2013
Age: 68
Gender: Male
Posts: 39,637
Location: Long Island, New York

02 Dec 2013, 9:10 pm

jamesmb113 wrote:
Personally, I love heavy metal and Disco.

On earphones.

In the library.

As far away and physically seperated from other people as I can get.

Re nerd rock : give Iron Maiden a try. Long, involved instrumentals + lyrics drawn from Science Fiction, History, Literature and Horror.

The most non-NT rocker I can think of is Frank Zappa.


Nobody would love metal and disco back then or at least admit to it. It was considered as opposite as the most Autistic person on the spectrum and the most NT person. Heavy metal and most rock fans loathed disco and it got ugly and violent at times.
Wikipedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disco_Demolition_Night
Read the"Musical" section and "Reaction and Aftermath" for background

Zappa is interesting. His dad was a engineer and mathematician, the man was brilliant and "different". But he did look very comfortable in interview situations. The best interview subject in the history of rock in my opinion. But you would have to know if he faded in lengthy chit chat have repetitive patterns etc.


_________________
“Self Acceptance is a process not a performance”
“You are autistic enough. And you always have been”

Professionally Identified and joined WP August 26, 2013
DSM 5: Autism Spectrum Disorder, DSM IV: Aspergers Moderate Severity.


Last edited by ASPartOfMe on 04 Dec 2013, 7:47 pm, edited 2 times in total.

Alternative
Veteran
Veteran

Joined: 29 Jun 2006
Gender: Male
Posts: 6,341

03 Dec 2013, 12:37 pm

The opposite of this:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3_3U0DdBR8[/youtube]



TismRizzler
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

Joined: 22 Apr 2024
Gender: Male
Posts: 28
Location: United States

21 May 2024, 9:14 pm

ASPartOfMe wrote:
Hair Metal
Heavy metal itself had a lot of sci fi/fantasy themes that would later show up in video games. But the hair metal subgenre was all about cockiness most of the videos were the same, guy band member motions the most scantly dressed and model type girl(s) from audience for later sex. A lot of double entendre lyrics ie not directly saying what they meant

What are you talking about? I'm Autistic and hair metal is my absolute favorite genre of music—in fact, it's the only genre I listen to anymore. I don't think it's possible to say whether or not a given genre is for Autistic people since we're all different.



funeralxempire
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 27 Oct 2014
Age: 41
Gender: Non-binary
Posts: 34,370
Location: Right over your left shoulder

21 May 2024, 9:49 pm

TismRizzler wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Hair Metal
Heavy metal itself had a lot of sci fi/fantasy themes that would later show up in video games. But the hair metal subgenre was all about cockiness most of the videos were the same, guy band member motions the most scantly dressed and model type girl(s) from audience for later sex. A lot of double entendre lyrics ie not directly saying what they meant

What are you talking about? I'm Autistic and hair metal is my absolute favorite genre of music—in fact, it's the only genre I listen to anymore. I don't think it's possible to say whether or not a given genre is for Autistic people since we're all different.


I don't think he's saying autistics can't enjoy hair metal, only that hair metal stereotypes diverge strongly from autistic stereotypes.


_________________
There's no such thing as a free market.
If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.


TismRizzler
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

Joined: 22 Apr 2024
Gender: Male
Posts: 28
Location: United States

22 May 2024, 8:17 am

funeralxempire wrote:
TismRizzler wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
Hair Metal
Heavy metal itself had a lot of sci fi/fantasy themes that would later show up in video games. But the hair metal subgenre was all about cockiness most of the videos were the same, guy band member motions the most scantly dressed and model type girl(s) from audience for later sex. A lot of double entendre lyrics ie not directly saying what they meant

What are you talking about? I'm Autistic and hair metal is my absolute favorite genre of music—in fact, it's the only genre I listen to anymore. I don't think it's possible to say whether or not a given genre is for Autistic people since we're all different.


I don't think he's saying autistics can't enjoy hair metal, only that hair metal stereotypes diverge strongly from autistic stereotypes.

Ah, I see. Thanks for the clarification!



nick007
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 4 May 2010
Gender: Male
Posts: 28,552
Location: was Louisiana but now Vermont in capitalistic military dictatorship called USA

09 Jun 2024, 11:25 am

I think the least autistic music would be songs bragging about how popular they are. Like rap songs about clubbing & how many women(or using more vulgar words) they have or glam rock songs about partying & having sex with lots women.


_________________
"I don't have an anger problem, I have an idiot problem!"
~King Of The Hill


"Hear all, trust nothing"
~Ferengi Rule Of Acquisition #190
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ru ... cquisition


FemmeDimanche
Tufted Titmouse
Tufted Titmouse

Joined: 29 Sep 2024
Gender: Female
Posts: 47

03 Oct 2024, 10:53 am

nick007 wrote:
I think the least autistic music would be songs bragging about how popular they are. Like rap songs about clubbing & how many women(or using more vulgar words) they have or glam rock songs about partying & having sex with lots women.


Seconding this.

Also seeing disco listed in this thread makes sense, but I find it a little funny, given it’s one of my favorite genres.



ASPartOfMe
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Aug 2013
Age: 68
Gender: Male
Posts: 39,637
Location: Long Island, New York

03 Oct 2024, 3:23 pm

I did title the thread Genres/Scenes. From the 70s through 90s genres of music were closely associated with certain types of people and scenes. In 2024 all of that is irrelevant, people like the old stuff purely for the music That is something I have become aware of in the 13 years since I created this thread due reaction videos to old music by zoomers becoming a popular type of youtube video.


_________________
“Self Acceptance is a process not a performance”
“You are autistic enough. And you always have been”

Professionally Identified and joined WP August 26, 2013
DSM 5: Autism Spectrum Disorder, DSM IV: Aspergers Moderate Severity.


Carbonhalo
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Nov 2007
Age: 64
Gender: Male
Posts: 4,068
Location: Musoria

03 Oct 2024, 4:07 pm

The first thing that kills my interest is monotony and unvaried repetition.
For this reason Doof, Trance and 90% of Techno just pisses me off.
If you can't toss in a change every 10 bars I wouldn't call you a musician.

My main requirement for any music is high energy.

It may be unusual for WP, but I like a crowd, and I don't mind sticking my head in a W-bin.
If they were playing the 1812 overture I would be standing between 2 cannons in B flat major, waiting for the full body concussion. (Try standing next to a tank when they fire the main gun! but don't forget your earplugs AND earmuffs. Concussion is why I got my pyro ticket.)

I love a mosh pit, and that's where you'll find me if I'm going to sing along, otherwise I'll find a corner where distortion is minimised and people watch.

I must admit a little confusion that someone classes accadacca as metal...

Metal loses me when it gets monotonous, the same when punk becomes Oi.

If you agree with my musical philosophy, please post the thrashiest local band you know in
Thrash-puppy central



naturalplastic
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 26 Aug 2010
Age: 71
Gender: Male
Posts: 35,189
Location: temperate zone

04 Oct 2024, 8:43 am

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Probably country. Tough to think of a more social genre :).

Black gospel music is far more social than country.
=========

But come to think of it...in musical structure gospel is the same thing as the blues. But lyrically gospel and blues are the opposite of every dichotomy: religious vs secular, heaven vs hell-on-earth,and community vs the individual.

It was the blending of the two that spawned soul music. And as Ringo Starr observed "country is White soul".
And both country and soul run the gamut - of social to nonsocial.



ASPartOfMe
Veteran
Veteran

User avatar

Joined: 25 Aug 2013
Age: 68
Gender: Male
Posts: 39,637
Location: Long Island, New York

04 Oct 2024, 12:04 pm

naturalplastic wrote:
techstepgenr8tion wrote:
Probably country. Tough to think of a more social genre :).

Black gospel music is far more social than country.
=========

But come to think of it...in musical structure gospel is the same thing as the blues. But lyrically gospel and blues are the opposite of every dichotomy: religious vs secular, heaven vs hell-on-earth,and community vs the individual.

It was the blending of the two that spawned soul music. And as Ringo Starr observed "country is White soul".
And both country and soul run the gamut - of social to nonsocial.

Quite a bit of individualism associated with country.


_________________
“Self Acceptance is a process not a performance”
“You are autistic enough. And you always have been”

Professionally Identified and joined WP August 26, 2013
DSM 5: Autism Spectrum Disorder, DSM IV: Aspergers Moderate Severity.