Performance reviews - how do you handle t hem?

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17 Jun 2014, 9:14 am

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cubedemon: briefly - none of this has anything to do with nobility.


I do not agree. I do not agree that money should be the final and only determiner of what is right.

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And nobody cares who you blame or don't blame.


How do you come to this conclusion? In this society if you blame anyone other than yourself you're berated for it.

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In this country, as has always been true in this country, able people have opportunity, which means that they aren't shut out (much) by class or caste, family background, a long list of other things that define, in other countries, what work you may and may not do, how you may or may not live, what education you may or may not have.


and what happens to those who are not able?

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"Able" simply means "can do [thing you want to do] in the current circumstances." There is no absolute definition. If you're going to succeed in this country you have to be energetic because it takes a great deal of energy to keep making an enterprise work day after day. Nobody else will come along and make it work for you. If you have the strength to do the thing you imagine, make that thing happen, and it's not actually illegal, then you'll find few barriers here. That's all "opportunity" means. And it's in contrast to how things work and have worked in many other places. In that sense, commodification is a good thing. If most endeavors are translatable to money, and there are no social rules saying who may and may not have money, then anyone whose natural talents allow them to get money can play.


Which means we're talking in commoditized terms. A person has no intrinsic worth or value but only has value in relation to what he is able to do, right?

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I'll make that more tangible. I'm a writer. In this country most writers are poor unless their families are rich. You get no support from the state for being a writer, and there is no market for much writing. People don't want to buy it. This state of affairs upsets a lot of writers, who believe the government should support them with grants because of the cultural importance of what they do. I think this is insane. The very last thing a writer wants is a government grant, because once the government starts paying, the government starts caring about what you write and starts trying to control it. That's a terrible state of affairs, just ask Solzhenitsyn. So unless you enjoy writing propaganda for whoever's in office, you're much better off being poor and tired and working a day job and writing what you please, secure in the knowledge that nobody cares about what you're doing. .


What does this tell you about the American consumer?

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It's a bad business when your society is ruled by ideas, rather than something as neutral as money. Because the ideas have to be someone's ideas, and they're likely to be quite, quite loony, with few contact points with reality. I have never seen things get nastier faster than in a group of powerful people fighting over whose ideas will run the show.


Isn't money, capitalism and free enterprise ideas as well?

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Speaking of loony ideas: Protestant theology likes to ascribe success to God's favor and virtue. That's because this country was founded by a load of cracked religious zealots. We're stuck with it, apparently. But that's the source of the moral values assigned to strength, helplessness, etc. That old creep Luther and his co-wackadoodles, all busy deciding what God likes and doesn't like.


Well, how shall we then live?



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17 Jun 2014, 9:32 am

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Why is it ignoble to blame external entities no matter the situation? What is the fundamental reasoning for the belief in the internal locus of control?

I think the next two posters made great points.

I just wanted to comment on this particular one, because it speaks to me. Maybe one of those nature vs nurture things, but, I feel like I chose the internal locus of control because I grew up around people who seemed to turn over all of their power to external forces. The 'someone should fix this' or 'someone should take care of me' attitude I encountered never seemed to be good for anything except a reason to complain.
Most people aren't THAT black and white about it obviously, but, my situation certainly was. To me, blaming others for their lack of opportunities was illogical, when I saw there were changes that could be made to change the circumstances, thereby giving one different opportunities. And the more I made those choices myself, the more it reinforced my personal belief that taking responsibility for everything that touched me in life with pretty empowering, so I only believed it more strongly.

There are times in my life when I've taken it perhaps a bit too extremely... when something goes 'wrong' I pick apart and analyze any tiny thing that might have prevented it and not dealt harshly enough with those who have done me wrong because I was the one who chose to engage in a relationship with them and put up with their behavior for so long or was 'dumb enough' to not see an obvious betrayal or advantage coming.
But, for the most part, it has worked for me.

It's possible I would not have insisted upon such control in my life if I did not know the powerlessness that comes with being physically disabled... so, perhaps I need to be thankful for even that suffering.

There is still friction with some people from my old life who feel like I judged them because I'm not like them and take such personal pride in my choices... but, I tell them what my Grandma told me, "you wouldn't worry so much about what other people think of you, if you realized how seldom they did." (ie my views aren't about them, they're about me, even if they think otherwise)


Looking at existence as a whole, what is the extent of our control exactly? What are the constraints exactly? Can you tell me how you derive your answer?



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17 Jun 2014, 10:49 am

cubedemon6073 wrote:
Looking at existence as a whole, what is the extent of our control exactly? What are the constraints exactly? Can you tell me how you derive your answer?

Ah, you do post interesting questions.

I think I derive my answers as narrowly and concretely as possible. That's just the way my brain works.

Can I control when I live and when I die? Somewhat. By my safety precautions, by how much I do or do not care for my body. Acknowledging that a portion of that is out of my control... a giant earthquake strikes when I'm driving over a bridge, my seatbelt and defensive driving posture won't do me much good.

I used to get hassled by the cops all of the time, and it was unfair. BUT, I control that now by driving a nicer car, not working a midnight shift and not dating criminals.

I used to get mocked because of the way that I speak, and it was unfair. Now, I cut people out of my life for looking down on me for being me.

Sorry, got a conference call... I'll have to finish navel-gazing later. :razz:



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17 Jun 2014, 5:25 pm

Just got time for one: cd, you ask what happens to those who aren't able. In this country? Screwed. Read Dreiser if you want the tabloid version. You want better support for not-so-able, steer for Scandinavia. Better marry a Scandinavian first, though. They're not dumb, they know half of America would swim for it it we knew what kind of life we could have over there. They don't let too many in.



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17 Jun 2014, 5:37 pm

I don't think I'd want to depend upon the social welfare system of Scandinavia. I would hate to be a subject of an Ingmar Bergman film--seemingly, they are filled with people sitting around kitchen tables discussing their respective depressions.

I would love to live in the countryside of Scandinavia. I would commute to Stockholm/Oslo/Helsinki, then live 50-60 miles away in the forests.

I think the best part of their social welfare system is the cradle and grave parts. They do well by their babies and old people.



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17 Jun 2014, 6:03 pm

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Just got time for one: cd, you ask what happens to those who aren't able. In this country? Screwed. Read Dreiser if you want the tabloid version. You want better support for not-so-able, steer for Scandinavia. Better marry a Scandinavian first, though. They're not dumb, they know half of America would swim for it it we knew what kind of life we could have over there. They don't let too many in.


Well then how is America a good country then? How does "love it or leave it" hold up then?

I'm right when I make the claim based upon how the world works that it is a hotel California situation meaning one can check out but one can never leave?

Well I'm going to do what I can. I have been writing some documents and eventually I'm going to write my auto-biography of my entire life from my birth until now documenting every detail of my experiences.

What I would like to do is to be able to print these things out. I would like to be able to preserve these documents that can last for thousands of years. Most people do not care today what I have to say and to be honest I think America and our capitalistic world is finished like Ancient Rome because the business of our nation is business. I want to give the future my personal narrative.

What preservation techniques can I use? I want to put it in some capsule or bury it underground somehow.

I'm going to build a Rosetta Stone to translate our language into binary code. More than likely the numerical system of the future will be similar which is base 10 and have similar numbers that look like our Arabic number system.

Dr. Morris Berman has given a narrative of America and why he believes it failed. http://morrisberman.blogspot.com/



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18 Jun 2014, 8:50 pm

cubedemon6073 wrote:
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I would like to say something here. You all apparently have jobs, right?

How has "pretending to be something one is not" been working for you guys? Even though you guys are trying your best a number of you are still getting bad performance reviews.

How has it worked by playing this game? What has been the outcome overall by what we say here? The final outcome seems to be "Heads you lose, Tails you lose."

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Well -- I get highly uneven performance reviews, not bad ones. Which is how things have gone my whole life. A/Bs and Fs.

How's it been working? I've got a kid who's done well and feels herself to be a member of the educable middle class, is busy internalizing all its expectations and standards, and is off at summer camp with a horde of other similar. They're -- who knows, swimming, golfing, water-skiing, I don't know. She's actually quite at home with all that stuff and I suspect she'll find that life far, far easier than I have, when she's grown up. I drove her to camp in a car that didn't fall apart underneath us, and am now on vacation in a city, in a nice apartment in a nice neighborhood, and I've just had a good workout and am about to go wander around with some good coffee. Later will go to a symphony conducted by one of the best conductors on earth. When the two of us go home, we'll go to a pleasant house.

In many respects I've wasted my time: I've done things I'm good at that weren't what I'm best at and find most important, and have spent a lot of time trying to bash my way into places where I don't belong. I've certainly, often, worked too hard. But I've also had tremendous liberty, tremendous opportunity, and in many respects America is a good place for me. Not the craziness, the guns, the paranoia, the Christianity. But the openness and opportunity. I'm a woman and a Jew, and yet I live my life more or less as I please.

Are there better ways to live, yes. On balance, though, I've been well-suited enough. But see what I say in ten years.


What openness? What opportunity? If America was an open society then why are there numerous social standards in which one is not allowed to deviate from whatsoever? IMHO, it is the opposite. We are a conformist culture.


I would think that this would be better put that we are a conformist species. Sure there are always groups who accept non-conformists but falling outside of the common social schema will always make you a target in any general "culture". I think it makes people naturally distrustful. All the more reason to sharpen the chameleon skills for public interactions. In private the differences can be celebrated.