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16 Feb 2016, 8:54 pm

CBS.com is where you will find it.

Episodes 9 and 12.


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17 Feb 2016, 12:23 am

She(Fiona) is back. In a new (to me) episode.

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17 Feb 2016, 7:29 am

Is that the one where Watson does a little investigation into her boss?

Edit: NEW Boss...crap...dropped the important identifier above...sorry.....


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17 Feb 2016, 12:34 pm

For those who don't watch Elementary regularly, these are the episodes thus far:
Season 4, Ep 9: Murder Ex Machina (character introduced)
Season 4, Ep 12: A View with a Room (potential romance begins)

I've like the portrayal so far. The "sky is green" bit wasn't great and I've seen some criticism over it, but other than that the character seems okay. One thing that struck me was when she was at lunch with Joan and said:

"You're supposed to say 'thank you.'" - something that's likely been drilled into her for her entire life. Joan is taken aback for a moment and then says "thank you." It's weird to see this kind of exchange between adults, rather than adult/child, but I've totally had people do this stuff to me, directly or indirectly. I know my manners aren't always the best but I find it very irritating when people take it upon themselves to enforce specific greetings or phrases. Maybe I seem rude, but I think it's ruder to correct adults in this way. Anyway, it was an interesting twist to see an autistic person try to enforce manners on a NT person.

I really liked that Sherlock asked if he could kiss her before attempting physical contact, and that the second time she basically told him "yeah the offer still stands but I'm not really feeling it right now so maybe later." I can be pretty adverse to physical contact, especially if it comes out of nowhere, so to see this portrayed on screen is really, really nice. Every other on-screen couple randomly starts sucking face and it's a bit off-putting to see this expectation.


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17 Feb 2016, 4:22 pm

zkydz wrote:
CBS.com is where you will find it.

Episodes 9 and 12.


Thanks :)



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17 Feb 2016, 6:31 pm

I started watching it about three weeks back. I was complaining in a comments thread about The Abominable Bride, and someone recommended it to me.

I really enjoy it. I've rushed through the 3 1/2 seasons, finally catching up with the last episode. It doesn't have the sweep or grandeur of Sherlock, but then Sherlock (to me) had about 4 3/4 good episodes out of the first 6, the rest simply being examples of how to disappear a show up its own arse. Plus much of that is down to the format - a 42 minute procedural vs 90 minute tv film.

There's a joke Eddie Izzard has about his time as third clarinet in the school band. The first clarinet plays the melody. The second clarinet plays the harmony. The third clarinet plays 'the notes that are left over'.

I think this is where Elementary finds itself, coming after the Guy Ritchie films and the Moffat/Gatiss series. I think there are difficulties inherent in the endeavour, and I think it navigates them very well, Mycroft aside. Holmes has to be the smartest person in the room. This can be hard to write for. Unfortunately, Moffat/Gatiss seem to think writing Sherlock as an arrogant superhero is a suitable replacement for actually having him be the smartest person in the room. Elementary's Holmes seems more like the stories to me - someone capable of warmth but still very much an odd fish.

And yes, though the handling has been a little on the heavy side, I think it is a far more careful, respectful use and depiction of autism than Sherlock (and BBT etc). I hope it plays out well.


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17 Feb 2016, 7:37 pm

I would like to thank everybody who has responded. I've worked in storytelling (Publishing mostly) for my entire adult life. What I recognized was the inherent problems with shooting half a movie every week and still make it work. Not easy. And, the show, though it has a few clunkers (Can't all be winners) it has overall captured what I feel is the essence of the two characters and plays them honestly and consistently both in writing and acting.

I detected that it was done with respect, but was not sure. I also detected that sometimes you have to use a sledgehammer to bang a point quickly to progress the story.

So, to have all of you who have chimed in, it has filled gaps and has been helpful.

Many thanks.

To those who have yet to enjoy the series, I hope you do find it good and entertaining.


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