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18 Mar 2018, 8:52 pm

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You may want to lay off the booze as its been bringing out the worst in you. You could try smoking pot instead because it has nearly no negative effects.


Smoking sativa makes me think very weird and paranoid thoughts. The only thing I like pot for is for sleep. It is a boring drug too.



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18 Mar 2018, 9:12 pm

I am glad you are still with us too. One day at a time is an old adage but a good one when going through extreme situations.

I am however very concerned about the multiple interactions between the large amount of different drugs you have been prescribed, and their collective interaction with alcohol. Have those multiple drug interactions ever been mentioned by the doctors you have seen? (Probably not). You may need to seek an independent review on what is safe and unsafe at this stage. Also, I wondered (and worried) that you might be taking sleeping tablets and/or opiates (like codeine and other things) in conjunction with alcohol, because this puts you at risk of going into a coma. Sometimes the things meant to help us harm us, and that's an area that doctors are a bit blind to in the main. So you may need to do some research yourself, as a start, and look at the big picture. Anyone would be affected with that amount and combination of psychoactive drugs and alcohol. But one step at a time - it took you a while to get to where you are, and it is going to take a while to get to a better place. We can support you through that though.

Could you tell us what you were prescribed all those drugs for? If you on the spectrum, you may not be aware that many AS people have atypical reactions to drugs, and doctors don't factor that in at all; they tend to think that we are medically and biologically identical to other people; well, many of us aren't.

I think that it may be too hard for you to address your drinking at this stage, so the drug interactions may be the best place to start. What do you think about that?



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18 Mar 2018, 9:15 pm

Seriously stop the alcohol, one of my parents tried to shoot themself in front of me when I was a small child because they were drunk and the alcohol exacerbated underlying suicidal tendencies. I've been assaulted due to alcohol. I recommend THC/cannabis oil to calm your nerves, it won't have the severe effects that drinking will, and you can better regulate your mood depending on the quantity and strain you decide to use.



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18 Mar 2018, 9:21 pm

Given the number of drugs already putting pressure on the OP's system, adding another at this stage, to which he has had negative reactions, is probably contraindicated and could so overload his system that I think it would be very risky to add cannabis to the mix.

I appreciate that some people have found it helpful for themselves, though I think the issues here are a bit more complex.



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18 Mar 2018, 11:54 pm

B19 wrote:
I am glad you are still with us too. One day at a time is an old adage but a good one when going through extreme situations.

I am however very concerned about the multiple interactions between the large amount of different drugs you have been prescribed, and their collective interaction with alcohol. Have those multiple drug interactions ever been mentioned by the doctors you have seen? (Probably not). You may need to seek an independent review on what is safe and unsafe at this stage. Also, I wondered (and worried) that you might be taking sleeping tablets and/or opiates (like codeine and other things) in conjunction with alcohol, because this puts you at risk of going into a coma. Sometimes the things meant to help us harm us, and that's an area that doctors are a bit blind to in the main. So you may need to do some research yourself, as a start, and look at the big picture. Anyone would be affected with that amount and combination of psychoactive drugs and alcohol. But one step at a time - it took you a while to get to where you are, and it is going to take a while to get to a better place. We can support you through that though.

Could you tell us what you were prescribed all those drugs for? If you on the spectrum, you may not be aware that many AS people have atypical reactions to drugs, and doctors don't factor that in at all; they tend to think that we are medically and biologically identical to other people; well, many of us aren't.

I think that it may be too hard for you to address your drinking at this stage, so the drug interactions may be the best place to start. What do you think about that?


I do not take the prescription drugs anymore and I was not on them on the night of my suicide attempt. I always suspected that I have adhd or autism but was never officially diagnosed. My therapist says there is a possibility but that I will have to see a autism specialist.



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19 Mar 2018, 12:02 am

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I do not take the prescription drugs anymore and I was not on them on the night of my suicide attempt. I always suspected that I have adhd or autism but was never officially diagnosed. My therapist says there is a possibility but that I will have to see a autism specialist.

in the meantime you can do your own research. :study:



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19 Mar 2018, 12:06 am

Ok, that might be the best place to start, to get some clarity on that issue. In the meantime we have some resources here on Wrong Planet that you can use to see what sort of scores you get. None of these tests are 100% reliable, but nor is the formal diagnostic procedure. Still, it's a start, and could be the first step to changing your life through greater self knowledge. Here's a summary of some of the most used test online:
http://www.kennethrobersonphd.com/four- ... -syndrome/

How do you feel about pursuing a diagnosis at this stage?



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19 Mar 2018, 1:23 am

B19 wrote:
Ok, that might be the best place to start, to get some clarity on that issue. In the meantime we have some resources here on Wrong Planet that you can use to see what sort of scores you get. None of these tests are 100% reliable, but nor is the formal diagnostic procedure. Still, it's a start, and could be the first step to changing your life through greater self knowledge. Here's a summary of some of the most used test online:
http://www.kennethrobersonphd.com/four- ... -syndrome/

How do you feel about pursuing a diagnosis at this stage?


I would be open to getting a diagnosis but I would be disappointed if I was identified as an aspie since its an incurable condition.



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19 Mar 2018, 1:54 am

According to this site: https://www.aspergerstestsite.com

Your AQ Test Score is: 33
The official criteria for Asperger’s Syndrome is an AQ score greater than 32.

According to statistical analysis, 26 – 31 Is a borderline score.

86% of people with a score of 26-31 can be correctly classified as having Asperger’s Syndrome.



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19 Mar 2018, 4:15 am

Good start, well done. Maybe next we can talk about what your current perception of Austism/Aspergers is, and where your current ideas about it came from.



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19 Mar 2018, 5:41 am

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Good start, well done. Maybe next we can talk about what your current perception of Austism/Aspergers is, and where your current ideas about it came from.


From what I know about it Asperger's is a high functioning form of autism which makes social interactions more difficult. People with Asperger's have narrow interest, speak in a monotone voice, have trouble reading social cues, and often have high IQ's.



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19 Mar 2018, 1:14 pm

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From what I know about it Asperger's is a high functioning form of autism which makes social interactions more difficult. People with Asperger's have narrow interest, speak in a monotone voice, have trouble reading social cues, and often have high IQ's.

Speaking solely for myself but the 'trouble reading social cues' is something that can be at least partially overcome as is the monotone voice. I will never be popular but I can usually 'read' a crowd now and even managed to somehow successfully get (and stay) married and hold onto the same job for 11 years. Once you learn cognitively how to read body language it becomes much easier.



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19 Mar 2018, 7:17 pm

Authentic wrote:
B19 wrote:
Good start, well done. Maybe next we can talk about what your current perception of Austism/Aspergers is, and where your current ideas about it came from.


From what I know about it Asperger's is a high functioning form of autism which makes social interactions more difficult. People with Asperger's have narrow interest, speak in a monotone voice, have trouble reading social cues, and often have high IQ's.


Well done again. Thanks for the information on your current perspective, we can revisit that later on. I am very busy today, though will be around later tonight. Meantime, could I invite you to do a bit of brainstorming at this stage. The idea is to identify the recovery steps, as you seem them, the milestones that you see as essential to your recovery and healing journey. Don't overthink this to begin with, just write down whatever comes to mind as it comes to mind. If it was planned like a journey, a road trip say, what would each healing stop be on that map?

Try to look at it on all levels - your emotions, your thoughts, your lifestyle, your goals, your beliefs, your sorrows, your talents and anything that seems relevant to you at this stage.

All the best with your progress, you have already made a significant start.