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24 Dec 2020, 12:51 pm

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Nobody worships Santa as a god.


Only because they don't realize Santa will condemn them to the naughty list for eternity.


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24 Dec 2020, 4:19 pm

KT67 wrote:
Nobody worships Santa as a god.




Hmm... This Reminds me of A Song About Bringing God (LOVE) Back to Life; ALMOST NIGHT Divine, Yes, Still Now...

"Santa was a God to me. I was absolutely mesmerised by the concept of charity, goodwill and benevolence. I actually prayed to him every night of the year, thanking him for being so good to children. I didn't ask for things; I only gave gratitude and learned to care about a concept bigger than myself."

Just Quoting Isabella's Lovely

Thoughts; Indeed,

Same Message

As the God

Of Love

'Jesus'; Yet, Now

No Cape, No Hell,

No Superman God

Pulling A Rabbit

Out Of A Hat

For Christmas

And Easter Every

Year; True Though

That Sleigh, Oh And

North Pole Distance

And Manufacturing

All Those Gifts must

Keep Old Saint

Nick and His

Wife Hopping

Year 'Round to

Get the Jobs All Done;

Yet, Just Imagine Being

Kind Now With Gratitude

Worshiping Humanity All of Existence Gift as Heaven Love

Will Breathe As Love Makes Kindness Real...

In General, And Yes, Stereotype,

With A Little Yoda Flair

Two There are

Those Who

Enjoying

The Giving

Feeling All the Magic

Love Will Give and Then

There are those Who Enjoy

The Taking More All they Will

Get And Hoard More; Picturing

The Anti-Santa On a Golf Course now

Fighting Against His Own Party on X-Mas Eve Only

For Personal Gain in More Taking And Hoarding Power Still...

True it is Up

To Each

Human

To Become

'Santa' To Erase

All the TaKinG And

Hoarding And Destruction

of Living Nature more...

If There is

A God There

Is Love For Those

Who Miss LoVE iN Life

Particularly, the Giving;

Yes, This God of

Love is

Practically

Supernatural

And Supergod everywhere

To See What 'They' Are Yet To Breathe...

Often A Child Dancing, Singing

Free Will Attempt

To Show

This Love

of Life Free; Yet Sadly Now

Often, The Reply is Quiet Hands

And Feet God (Love For Life) Go to Hell Attached

To Your Screen, Instead; And Do the 'Painting

Scream' In Your Head At School And Works As

Programmed Machine; Until 'That Painting Becomes'

Just Another 'Norm' in Hell... Yes, on Earth Within;

It's A Rather

Vicious

Cycle;

Yes, Almost

Like a Religious

Tradition; A Darker Lit Mass

'Beneath The Planet of the Apes'

Still Worshipping A Bomb of Ignorance

And 'Their' Flavor of Orange and 'Holy Fall-Out' Then....

Yes, indeed

This God and

Superman Stuff;

All A Matter of Perspective,

Depending on How one Breathes Now...

-Hope

For S

or

The Other
Place Now Blind Indeed...

It Seems Isabella, Enlightened.

To See the Essence in Form, From a Very Young Age True....

There is no

Greater

Superman

And or Woman

Or God than Love Yet

Only For those Who Understand

What the Real All Natural Miracles of Love Just Naturally Will Do...

Anyway, Quiet Honestly, i Don't Give A G Dam

What Or Who the Hell Tori Kelly

Is Singing About in This

Divine Spirit Sounding

Song;

It is the

Heaven

Of Her

Voice that Melts

my HeART of Love

And Nearly Takes Me to my Knees;

Yet 'You' See; The Gift,The Paradise Divine,

Is the Ability Now to Feel the Dream Now Real...

Yes, The 'God'/Love Part Within That Only Needs

A Melody of Dancing Song to Breathe This Love Now....

How Do i Know; How Do i Feel;

How Do i Sense

This For

Real;

i Lost
This Spark

Within For 66 Months

And it Returned Again to me

Understanding Fully Now That

THere are Some Who Only See What

i 'Saw'

in Those

66 Months

With No Eyes or

Ears of Love At all;

ThroughThat Experience

of Pain and Numb, i came to

Find God (Love) Is Real; Yet, Only

The Feeling of Love Within

to Give

And

Share

Free Bringing

Only More Divine

Spirit of Love to Breathe;

Obviously, Mileage Varies, Depending

On Make And Model of Human With No Guarantees;

Lesson i learned Well in my Stint in 'the other place'

WHere no Place of Day or Night Divine Even Exists For Real...

Some Describe This Experience As 'Frission'; Science Relates

To Mostly Those Who Are Open Minded; Which Really Just

Means Open Hearted, With A Spirit of Soul Breathing Free;

Or Alternately As Science Also Describes A Transient

Hypo-Frontality of Autotelic Flow Soaring

To New Heights of Human Ecstasy

Plateauing this Way Practically

Forever Now in Waves

of More Ecstatic

Joy As

Tory

is

Obviously

Experiencing

Singing the

Song Where

We May

Feel A

Spark

of this

Divine She
Naturally Experiences
too; Oh How Divine Indeed

As Our

World

'Views'

BREaTHE Only Within...

Other than That Merry Love

And Lovemas; True, For What i 'See';

The Name of 'Jesus', 'Love', and 'God' is No Longer

LoVE iN the Houses of Brick and Mortar; The Religions

And States Hardly With Even Anything Left related to Love... so many Lies....

It is A bit 'Triggering'

Now to Hear

Those

Words (Forms/Empty Shells of Idols) in the Song

Yes, They Almost All Ring Now With the Essence of 'Trump'

Yet Again, Now, Still, Love Continue to Breathe Where it Does...

Why?

Still?

Just A Return

To Healthy Human Nature in Balance...

Just Born Again to Who We aRe Naked Evolved

to Naturally Be... Yes, Love;

Indeed,

When

Experienced

Fully As Divine Feeling

That is Real this Love Breathing Now

At Least Kelly Captures the 'God/Love Music'

Without the Lyrics...

With the

Instrument

of Her Soul...

Her Voice Dances Sings..

For It is True if There Are

No Tears of Ecstasy Rolling

Down Your Cheeks With Her

Last

Note

Singing;

Verily, Whoever

You are Do Not 'See' What i

Breathe... Now Again (This 'God' Free to 'See' Love Within)


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24 Dec 2020, 7:02 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
wowiexist wrote:
But the thing about Santa is that he is based on a real person. That real person is considered a saint but not a god.


Santa Claus might be loosely based on Saint Nicholas, but Santa Claus isn't literally St. Nicholas. For starters, Santa didn't deck Arius, St. Nick did.

The current Santa concept is based on a mix of traditions associated with Saint Nicholas, with the Dutch Sinterklaas and with the English Father Christmas and is an invention of American culture. Protestants rejecting the veneration of saints caused the change in tradition, moving the gifts to coincide with Christmas instead of St. Nicholas' Day.



His costume design is invented by Coca cola.

Edit: Not really, just checked, the red color goes older than that. Phew.



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24 Dec 2020, 7:09 pm

Trueno wrote:
Maybe classical Greek heroes inspired Superman... particularly Heracles.

Actually, i think it was Nietzsche, who wrote about his Übermensch, aka Superman.
He had a big influence on the Nazis, anarchism and even Zionism.

The concept of Nietzsche's Übermensch may have been inspired by other historical religious beliefs.



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25 Dec 2020, 1:23 am

wowiexist wrote:
But the thing about Santa is that he is based on a real person. That real person is considered a saint but not a god.
True, St. Nicholas is, but have you tried looking up one of Santa's other names? I stumbled across something quite interesting when I did:
https://wiki2.org/en/Kris_Kringle_(disambiguation)
And here's the article worth focusing on:
https://wiki2.org/en/Christkind

So...in a sense, yes, Santa is God, or at least we can say that he started out as the original Santa Christ, before Rob Walker popularized the concept. :lol: And yes, another significant part of the inspiration for Santa could be traced back to a Catholic Bishop from the fourth century AD. We can safely say that he has far more Christian roots than I for one thought.

Of course much of the rest of the basis for Santa can be traced back to Victorian/Edwardian England, when companies began to see families with children as a lucrative market. One of the things they did was take advantage of an element of Christmas's Saturnalia roots to slowly turn the holiday into a consumerist nightmare over the century or so since.

But, in all fairness, the concept of Santa in and of itself is perhaps the least vile element of that. At least there are some good morals associated with the old fat guy with a beard that ultimately encourages children to be on their best behaviour, and perhaps even consider growing up to be generous like him. They're just somewhat muddled because children also turn to Santa out of a desire for stuff. :roll:



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25 Dec 2020, 3:37 pm

Let's see,
Superman is mortal, he ages, and he can be killed by Kryptonite, so that makes him a non god.

Santa Calus on the other hand is:

- Immortal (he never ages or dies....there's only one Santa Claus over all generations)
- Omnipresent (can deliver gifts to all kids in one night).
- Having a long white beard.

So yeah...that makes him a god.



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25 Dec 2020, 3:46 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Let's see,
Superman is mortal, he ages, and he can be killed by Kryptonite, so that makes him a non god.


Norse gods die, I'm not sure that's a defining trait.


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25 Dec 2020, 5:35 pm

SMiles, Setting The Bar As Escaping
Death For A God Is A Rather Low

Bar Considering That

Mostly Ghost Authors of the Stories Get all
The Kneeling Credit in Churches; True, It Depends
On What The Target Audience is Willing To Swallow Whole

As to How Popular The Story Grows; Considering, How

Many Folks Have Bought the Trump Story Of Almost

Innumerable Numbers of Lies to Count; Hook, Line, And

Sinker;

Yes, Sinker

on 5th Avenue,

Unmasked Whole,

And Closer in a Deadly Pandemic;

And Of Course, Fact Checked By

Science Along the Way As Killing Lies;

i Don't See Winning A Target Audience

As Much of A Deep Success in Human Potential;

Obviously, If One Appeals to Fear, Greed, Hoarding

And General Hate of Human Nature, Multiplied By Conspiracy

Theories; One Will Also Become A Conspiracy Theory Superstar on YouTube; And Even Earn

Substantial YouTube Ad Sense Cents, until the lies get Shut-down Lately as Is continuing to

Be the Clean-Up the BS Job, of the Folks Who Own the Social Media; It's True, Most Anyone Will

Strum The Strings of Human Nature to Acquire, And Master An Audience; i Mean My

God; All It takes is 'a Trump' And Accordingly 'An Audience' to Be Played as We are Seeing

Now, Very Watered Down in Common Feel of Who is Lying Constantly or Telling the Truth;

Yet, What is really the Reward

of Becoming A God Or Writing

About a Fictional God Like Trump

As Guise and Never Really Achieving

Human Potential to Actual Fulfill More of What Humans Will Be;

Santa Claus And Superman; And Stories About Jesus AKA God In

Some Global Circles All Have One thing in Common;

The Authors of the

Stories continue to

Live on in Death Per

The Shells of their Creativity

That Reflect Their Unique Flame of Life.

i Am Reminded of How Influential the Depth of a Story

Will Be Each Week, When i Visit the Catholic Church As An

Anthropology Participant Observer; And Watch Ghost Authors

With Pen Names Like Mark, Luke, Matthew And the Folks Responsible

For John And How Folks Still Kneel Down to the Author of Gods Still Now

It's True

In the Beginning

of the Story God Is Word...

Santa Claus, Super Man,

And God All Have These 'Words' In Common....

All That Is Unique is Where All the Words Come From

Human Nature Creating Stories; Not only In Myths of Oral Tradition;

Yet in Concrete Print

Setting the Authors

In Stone

Idols

In

Writing

Of Their

Creative Spirit Still to Be

Worshipped; So Yes, Literally Story is God;

It Even Says it in the Book; As the Word Becomes God....


Please Understand though; When The Words Were First

Written; A Very Exclusive Literate Human Class, Indeed;

How Many Comic Book Heroes are there Now; A Whole

Bunch as all it really Takes is a Nerd Who Dreams They have

The Power Never to get Bullied Again, Imagining They Will Transform

With Super Powers to finally Be Fulfilled As A Whole Human Being;

It's worth

Noting

Ya Don't

Have to Write a Story

To Do this; Yet i've Heard

It Said, So Let it Be Written, So Let it be done;

Some Folks End Their Life With The Writing; Others

Rise Up Out of Books and Actually Breathe...

And Even Fewer Others

Write the Story

In Progress

As It

Occurs For real...

This Is the Real God of Human

Nature The Power to Bring Creative

Dreams to Fruition as We Truly Fully Breathe... Closer to Free...

If You Wanna Create A Super Hero; Anyone With A Story Will Create A New Existence...

It seems

That is what

'They' Say God Does;

So What's Really Different

Than Doing It and Actually Being It...

Authors Are Real Folks Who Have Ruled

The World As Long As It Will Be Ruled By Words...

Other Than That

Even When Ya Are

Grounded

in A Pandemic

Words Will Be

The Mercury Wings of

Whatever Message Is Delivered and Viewed

All Over the Globe Now Or Just Collecting Dust in

Barnes And Noble...

Or the SOS

Repeated Each

Week In Church

As the Same

Unnamed Ghost

Authors Are Kneeled

And Bowed Down to Each Week...

Considering Most Humans Beings Write

These Days; No Longer do We Have to Bow

Down to the Story Of Someone Else's Created God...

That's a Real Freedom Worth Both Keeping and Delivering Free

This Creation

Activity

Breath Indeed....

Other Than That Zack Snyder
The Director of the Most Recent

"Superman Incarnation" On The
Big Screen Admits the Mythology
Of the Myths Associated With the Story
Of Jesus Are Woven Into this Modern Story of the Human Hero Archetype

And Interestingly That is Precisely What the Isaiah Chapter 53; Verses 1 Through
12 is All About; Is it Any Surprise the Story of Jesus Fits 'the Prophecy'; Well, of course

Not as Often Prophecy is Just Another Archetypal Story of the Human Hero

Rising Out of Darkness Returning And Teaching the Rest of Culture
How to Avoid the Darkness In Life as Really Just Part of Self Actualizing

And Transcending in Communal Love For Something Bigger than Just one Human...

Sadly, So Many Others Have Been Worshipped as Gods In Myths; and The Opportunity

to Actually Complete the Hero Archetype, JUST PLAIN Missed....

TRUE, There Are Spectators, And Audience Members;

Actors And then the Actual

Writers of the Stories

Who Bring

Those Stories

One and the Same into Fruition;

How Rare They Are; For the Simple

Fact That Folks Get Trapped in someone else's Book of Life...

https://www.cnn.com/2013/06/14/showbiz/zack-snyder-man-of-steel/index.html


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25 Dec 2020, 5:56 pm

madbutnotmad wrote:
Trueno wrote:
Maybe classical Greek heroes inspired Superman... particularly Heracles.

Actually, i think it was Nietzsche, who wrote about his Übermensch, aka Superman.
He had a big influence on the Nazis, anarchism and even Zionism.

The concept of Nietzsche's Übermensch may have been inspired by other historical religious beliefs.


The Nazis coopeted the simple idea of the Ubermensch into their political ethos, but they had a very shallow and superficial understanding of Nietzsche's philosophy. After all, it was Nietzsche who had called Anti-Semitism the philosophy of those who feel cheated, and had asked the Kaiser to banish all Anti-Semites from Germany.


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26 Dec 2020, 9:46 am

From a Greek and Norse mythology way of looking at it, both have godlike abilities. Santa would be godlike the same as Loki. Although Superman would stand a better chance against the Hulk than Loki.





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26 Dec 2020, 10:01 am

Got it! Superman can beat Hulk, and Hulk can beat Loki, so Loki shouldnt mess with Superman.

That would be a good way to teach algebra to school kids! If A is greater than B, and so on... :lol:

But thats what so funny about current Hollywood. How they liberally mix characters from ancient mythology with characters from 20th Century comic books into the same stories.



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Got it! Superman can beat Hulk, and Hulk can beat Loki, so Loki shouldnt mess with Superman.

That would be a good way to teach algebra to school kids! If A is greater than B, and so on... :lol:

But thats what so funny about current Hollywood. How they liberally mix characters from ancient mythology with characters from 20th Century comic books into the same stories.


I'm still waiting for Jesus to join the Avengers.

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26 Dec 2020, 5:39 pm

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From a Greek and Norse mythology way of looking at it, both have godlike abilities. Santa would be godlike the same as Loki. Although Superman would stand a better chance against the Hulk than Loki.





:lol: :lol: :lol:


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26 Dec 2020, 6:07 pm

Some religions, by including them in their definitions of "idols" and prohibitions against them, have defined them as "gods", or at least "false gods."

Also, when I saw Thor and Freya streets driving on I-90, I realized it was time to put the hammer down.


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26 Dec 2020, 7:41 pm

General Zod : Why do you praise Superman , when you know i shall kill you for it ?

The only one that should be praised is me , your beloved ruler. I have spoken.

Hulk Hogan : Oh , shut your pie hole , brother. We all know Hulkamania is the strongest force in the universe , dude...get your facts straight , jack !

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