Are Santa Claus and Superman gods?
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Only because they don't realize Santa will condemn them to the naughty list for eternity.
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Hmm... This Reminds me of A Song About Bringing God (LOVE) Back to Life; ALMOST NIGHT Divine, Yes, Still Now...
"Santa was a God to me. I was absolutely mesmerised by the concept of charity, goodwill and benevolence. I actually prayed to him every night of the year, thanking him for being so good to children. I didn't ask for things; I only gave gratitude and learned to care about a concept bigger than myself."
Just Quoting Isabella's Lovely
Thoughts; Indeed,
Same Message
As the God
Of Love
'Jesus'; Yet, Now
No Cape, No Hell,
No Superman God
Pulling A Rabbit
Out Of A Hat
For Christmas
And Easter Every
Year; True Though
That Sleigh, Oh And
North Pole Distance
And Manufacturing
All Those Gifts must
Keep Old Saint
Nick and His
Wife Hopping
Year 'Round to
Get the Jobs All Done;
Yet, Just Imagine Being
Kind Now With Gratitude
Worshiping Humanity All of Existence Gift as Heaven Love
Will Breathe As Love Makes Kindness Real...
In General, And Yes, Stereotype,
With A Little Yoda Flair
Two There are
Those Who
Enjoying
The Giving
Feeling All the Magic
Love Will Give and Then
There are those Who Enjoy
The Taking More All they Will
Get And Hoard More; Picturing
The Anti-Santa On a Golf Course now
Fighting Against His Own Party on X-Mas Eve Only
For Personal Gain in More Taking And Hoarding Power Still...
True it is Up
To Each
Human
To Become
'Santa' To Erase
All the TaKinG And
Hoarding And Destruction
of Living Nature more...
If There is
A God There
Is Love For Those
Who Miss LoVE iN Life
Particularly, the Giving;
Yes, This God of
Love is
Practically
Supernatural
And Supergod everywhere
To See What 'They' Are Yet To Breathe...
Often A Child Dancing, Singing
Free Will Attempt
To Show
This Love
of Life Free; Yet Sadly Now
Often, The Reply is Quiet Hands
And Feet God (Love For Life) Go to Hell Attached
To Your Screen, Instead; And Do the 'Painting
Scream' In Your Head At School And Works As
Programmed Machine; Until 'That Painting Becomes'
Just Another 'Norm' in Hell... Yes, on Earth Within;
It's A Rather
Vicious
Cycle;
Yes, Almost
Like a Religious
Tradition; A Darker Lit Mass
'Beneath The Planet of the Apes'
Still Worshipping A Bomb of Ignorance
And 'Their' Flavor of Orange and 'Holy Fall-Out' Then....
Yes, indeed
This God and
Superman Stuff;
All A Matter of Perspective,
Depending on How one Breathes Now...
-Hope
For S
or
The Other
Place Now Blind Indeed...
It Seems Isabella, Enlightened.
To See the Essence in Form, From a Very Young Age True....
There is no
Greater
Superman
And or Woman
Or God than Love Yet
Only For those Who Understand
What the Real All Natural Miracles of Love Just Naturally Will Do...
Anyway, Quiet Honestly, i Don't Give A G Dam
What Or Who the Hell Tori Kelly
Is Singing About in This
Divine Spirit Sounding
Song;
It is the
Heaven
Of Her
Voice that Melts
my HeART of Love
And Nearly Takes Me to my Knees;
Yet 'You' See; The Gift,The Paradise Divine,
Is the Ability Now to Feel the Dream Now Real...
Yes, The 'God'/Love Part Within That Only Needs
A Melody of Dancing Song to Breathe This Love Now....
How Do i Know; How Do i Feel;
How Do i Sense
This For
Real;
i Lost
This Spark
Within For 66 Months
And it Returned Again to me
Understanding Fully Now That
THere are Some Who Only See What
i 'Saw'
in Those
66 Months
With No Eyes or
Ears of Love At all;
ThroughThat Experience
of Pain and Numb, i came to
Find God (Love) Is Real; Yet, Only
The Feeling of Love Within
to Give
And
Share
Free Bringing
Only More Divine
Spirit of Love to Breathe;
Obviously, Mileage Varies, Depending
On Make And Model of Human With No Guarantees;
Lesson i learned Well in my Stint in 'the other place'
WHere no Place of Day or Night Divine Even Exists For Real...
Some Describe This Experience As 'Frission'; Science Relates
To Mostly Those Who Are Open Minded; Which Really Just
Means Open Hearted, With A Spirit of Soul Breathing Free;
Or Alternately As Science Also Describes A Transient
Hypo-Frontality of Autotelic Flow Soaring
To New Heights of Human Ecstasy
Plateauing this Way Practically
Forever Now in Waves
of More Ecstatic
Joy As
Tory
is
Obviously
Experiencing
Singing the
Song Where
We May
Feel A
Spark
of this
Divine She
Naturally Experiences
too; Oh How Divine Indeed
As Our
World
'Views'
BREaTHE Only Within...
Other than That Merry Love
And Lovemas; True, For What i 'See';
The Name of 'Jesus', 'Love', and 'God' is No Longer
LoVE iN the Houses of Brick and Mortar; The Religions
And States Hardly With Even Anything Left related to Love... so many Lies....
It is A bit 'Triggering'
Now to Hear
Those
Words (Forms/Empty Shells of Idols) in the Song
Yes, They Almost All Ring Now With the Essence of 'Trump'
Yet Again, Now, Still, Love Continue to Breathe Where it Does...
Why?
Still?
Just A Return
To Healthy Human Nature in Balance...
Just Born Again to Who We aRe Naked Evolved
to Naturally Be... Yes, Love;
Indeed,
When
Experienced
Fully As Divine Feeling
That is Real this Love Breathing Now
At Least Kelly Captures the 'God/Love Music'
Without the Lyrics...
With the
Instrument
of Her Soul...
Her Voice Dances Sings..
For It is True if There Are
No Tears of Ecstasy Rolling
Down Your Cheeks With Her
Last
Note
Singing;
Verily, Whoever
You are Do Not 'See' What i
Breathe... Now Again (This 'God' Free to 'See' Love Within)
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Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
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Santa Claus might be loosely based on Saint Nicholas, but Santa Claus isn't literally St. Nicholas. For starters, Santa didn't deck Arius, St. Nick did.
The current Santa concept is based on a mix of traditions associated with Saint Nicholas, with the Dutch Sinterklaas and with the English Father Christmas and is an invention of American culture. Protestants rejecting the veneration of saints caused the change in tradition, moving the gifts to coincide with Christmas instead of St. Nicholas' Day.
His costume design is invented by Coca cola.
Edit: Not really, just checked, the red color goes older than that. Phew.
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Actually, i think it was Nietzsche, who wrote about his Übermensch, aka Superman.
He had a big influence on the Nazis, anarchism and even Zionism.
The concept of Nietzsche's Übermensch may have been inspired by other historical religious beliefs.
https://wiki2.org/en/Kris_Kringle_(disambiguation)
And here's the article worth focusing on:
https://wiki2.org/en/Christkind
So...in a sense, yes, Santa is God, or at least we can say that he started out as the original Santa Christ, before Rob Walker popularized the concept.
Of course much of the rest of the basis for Santa can be traced back to Victorian/Edwardian England, when companies began to see families with children as a lucrative market. One of the things they did was take advantage of an element of Christmas's Saturnalia roots to slowly turn the holiday into a consumerist nightmare over the century or so since.
But, in all fairness, the concept of Santa in and of itself is perhaps the least vile element of that. At least there are some good morals associated with the old fat guy with a beard that ultimately encourages children to be on their best behaviour, and perhaps even consider growing up to be generous like him. They're just somewhat muddled because children also turn to Santa out of a desire for stuff.
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Let's see,
Superman is mortal, he ages, and he can be killed by Kryptonite, so that makes him a non god.
Santa Calus on the other hand is:
- Immortal (he never ages or dies....there's only one Santa Claus over all generations)
- Omnipresent (can deliver gifts to all kids in one night).
- Having a long white beard.
So yeah...that makes him a god.
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Superman is mortal, he ages, and he can be killed by Kryptonite, so that makes him a non god.
Norse gods die, I'm not sure that's a defining trait.
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If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. —Malcolm X
Just a reminder: under international law, an occupying power has no right of self-defense, and those who are occupied have the right and duty to liberate themselves by any means possible.
SMiles, Setting The Bar As Escaping
Death For A God Is A Rather Low
Bar Considering That
Mostly Ghost Authors of the Stories Get all
The Kneeling Credit in Churches; True, It Depends
On What The Target Audience is Willing To Swallow Whole
As to How Popular The Story Grows; Considering, How
Many Folks Have Bought the Trump Story Of Almost
Innumerable Numbers of Lies to Count; Hook, Line, And
Sinker;
Yes, Sinker
on 5th Avenue,
Unmasked Whole,
And Closer in a Deadly Pandemic;
And Of Course, Fact Checked By
Science Along the Way As Killing Lies;
i Don't See Winning A Target Audience
As Much of A Deep Success in Human Potential;
Obviously, If One Appeals to Fear, Greed, Hoarding
And General Hate of Human Nature, Multiplied By Conspiracy
Theories; One Will Also Become A Conspiracy Theory Superstar on YouTube; And Even Earn
Substantial YouTube Ad Sense Cents, until the lies get Shut-down Lately as Is continuing to
Be the Clean-Up the BS Job, of the Folks Who Own the Social Media; It's True, Most Anyone Will
Strum The Strings of Human Nature to Acquire, And Master An Audience; i Mean My
God; All It takes is 'a Trump' And Accordingly 'An Audience' to Be Played as We are Seeing
Now, Very Watered Down in Common Feel of Who is Lying Constantly or Telling the Truth;
Yet, What is really the Reward
of Becoming A God Or Writing
About a Fictional God Like Trump
As Guise and Never Really Achieving
Human Potential to Actual Fulfill More of What Humans Will Be;
Santa Claus And Superman; And Stories About Jesus AKA God In
Some Global Circles All Have One thing in Common;
The Authors of the
Stories continue to
Live on in Death Per
The Shells of their Creativity
That Reflect Their Unique Flame of Life.
i Am Reminded of How Influential the Depth of a Story
Will Be Each Week, When i Visit the Catholic Church As An
Anthropology Participant Observer; And Watch Ghost Authors
With Pen Names Like Mark, Luke, Matthew And the Folks Responsible
For John And How Folks Still Kneel Down to the Author of Gods Still Now
It's True
In the Beginning
of the Story God Is Word...
Santa Claus, Super Man,
And God All Have These 'Words' In Common....
All That Is Unique is Where All the Words Come From
Human Nature Creating Stories; Not only In Myths of Oral Tradition;
Yet in Concrete Print
Setting the Authors
In Stone
Idols
In
Writing
Of Their
Creative Spirit Still to Be
Worshipped; So Yes, Literally Story is God;
It Even Says it in the Book; As the Word Becomes God....
Please Understand though; When The Words Were First
Written; A Very Exclusive Literate Human Class, Indeed;
How Many Comic Book Heroes are there Now; A Whole
Bunch as all it really Takes is a Nerd Who Dreams They have
The Power Never to get Bullied Again, Imagining They Will Transform
With Super Powers to finally Be Fulfilled As A Whole Human Being;
It's worth
Noting
Ya Don't
Have to Write a Story
To Do this; Yet i've Heard
It Said, So Let it Be Written, So Let it be done;
Some Folks End Their Life With The Writing; Others
Rise Up Out of Books and Actually Breathe...
And Even Fewer Others
Write the Story
In Progress
As It
Occurs For real...
This Is the Real God of Human
Nature The Power to Bring Creative
Dreams to Fruition as We Truly Fully Breathe... Closer to Free...
If You Wanna Create A Super Hero; Anyone With A Story Will Create A New Existence...
It seems
That is what
'They' Say God Does;
So What's Really Different
Than Doing It and Actually Being It...
Authors Are Real Folks Who Have Ruled
The World As Long As It Will Be Ruled By Words...
Other Than That
Even When Ya Are
Grounded
in A Pandemic
Words Will Be
The Mercury Wings of
Whatever Message Is Delivered and Viewed
All Over the Globe Now Or Just Collecting Dust in
Barnes And Noble...
Or the SOS
Repeated Each
Week In Church
As the Same
Unnamed Ghost
Authors Are Kneeled
And Bowed Down to Each Week...
Considering Most Humans Beings Write
These Days; No Longer do We Have to Bow
Down to the Story Of Someone Else's Created God...
That's a Real Freedom Worth Both Keeping and Delivering Free
This Creation
Activity
Breath Indeed....
Other Than That Zack Snyder
The Director of the Most Recent
"Superman Incarnation" On The
Big Screen Admits the Mythology
Of the Myths Associated With the Story
Of Jesus Are Woven Into this Modern Story of the Human Hero Archetype
And Interestingly That is Precisely What the Isaiah Chapter 53; Verses 1 Through
12 is All About; Is it Any Surprise the Story of Jesus Fits 'the Prophecy'; Well, of course
Not as Often Prophecy is Just Another Archetypal Story of the Human Hero
Rising Out of Darkness Returning And Teaching the Rest of Culture
How to Avoid the Darkness In Life as Really Just Part of Self Actualizing
And Transcending in Communal Love For Something Bigger than Just one Human...
Sadly, So Many Others Have Been Worshipped as Gods In Myths; and The Opportunity
to Actually Complete the Hero Archetype, JUST PLAIN Missed....
TRUE, There Are Spectators, And Audience Members;
Actors And then the Actual
Writers of the Stories
Who Bring
Those Stories
One and the Same into Fruition;
How Rare They Are; For the Simple
Fact That Folks Get Trapped in someone else's Book of Life...
https://www.cnn.com/2013/06/14/showbiz/zack-snyder-man-of-steel/index.html
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Actually, i think it was Nietzsche, who wrote about his Übermensch, aka Superman.
He had a big influence on the Nazis, anarchism and even Zionism.
The concept of Nietzsche's Übermensch may have been inspired by other historical religious beliefs.
The Nazis coopeted the simple idea of the Ubermensch into their political ethos, but they had a very shallow and superficial understanding of Nietzsche's philosophy. After all, it was Nietzsche who had called Anti-Semitism the philosophy of those who feel cheated, and had asked the Kaiser to banish all Anti-Semites from Germany.
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Got it! Superman can beat Hulk, and Hulk can beat Loki, so Loki shouldnt mess with Superman.
That would be a good way to teach algebra to school kids! If A is greater than B, and so on...
But thats what so funny about current Hollywood. How they liberally mix characters from ancient mythology with characters from 20th Century comic books into the same stories.
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That would be a good way to teach algebra to school kids! If A is greater than B, and so on...
But thats what so funny about current Hollywood. How they liberally mix characters from ancient mythology with characters from 20th Century comic books into the same stories.
I'm still waiting for Jesus to join the Avengers.
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Some religions, by including them in their definitions of "idols" and prohibitions against them, have defined them as "gods", or at least "false gods."
Also, when I saw Thor and Freya streets driving on I-90, I realized it was time to put the hammer down.
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