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Persephone29
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25 Nov 2019, 8:01 pm

I had to remove my bowl of food for the Possum and Raccoon in my area. Instead of them, a black feral-ish cat staked a claim in my yard and beat kitty up and ran her off. I had to turn on all the outside lights until she finally came back. She stays inside at night and goes outside during the day. She's a lover, not a fighter. When something like this happens, it scares her for a long time.


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26 Nov 2019, 5:40 am

Possum pick up their bedding and carry it with their tails, until they get it back to the spot they're sleeping in. :heart:


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26 Nov 2019, 9:58 am

We have a lot of possums or opossums in my neck of the woods. They are an interesting animal for Aspies because they replicate one of our conditions - panic attacks.

The way our human brains are designed it is like having three individual computer processors that work together. In every situation one of the brains has to be in control. These brains are the core (like an infant's brain), the middle brain (fight or flight), and the outer brain (social brain). When we are threatened control collapses inward. The social or outer brain is in charge. If the social brain cannot figure a way out of the threat by interacting with society, it collapses down to a fight or flight response. If neither brain can resolve the issue then it further collapses down to the core. Think of the core as an infant that can neither walk or talk. This core brain has been referred to that similar to a fish brain. When a fish encounters a threat it remains motionlessly still and hopes the threat will go away if it doesn't move. This effect is called "tonic immobility". One might use the word frozen to death. If a panic attack goes deep enough then a human may curl up in a fetal position, become motionless and they lose the ability to communicate.

Possums do this so often that the phrase "playing dead like a possum" was created. [Playing dead is an involuntary response on the part of the opossum. The stress of the confrontation facing the opossum causes him to go into shock. This shock induces a comatose state that can last from 40 minutes to four hours.] I have witnessed this quite often. When they are immobile, it is very difficult to determine if they are dead or alive. You can approach them and move their bodies around with a stick. It is almost like "rigor mortis" has set in. So you go about looking for a shovel to bury it. When you finally find the shovel you come back and it is gone. It very slowly woke up and walked off while you were gone.


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26 Nov 2019, 8:51 pm

jimmy m wrote:
We have a lot of possums or opossums in my neck of the woods. They are an interesting animal for Aspies because they replicate one of our conditions - panic attacks.

The way our human brains are designed it is like having three individual computer processors that work together. In every situation one of the brains has to be in control. These brains are the core (like an infant's brain), the middle brain (fight or flight), and the outer brain (social brain). When we are threatened control collapses inward. The social or outer brain is in charge. If the social brain cannot figure a way out of the threat by interacting with society, it collapses down to a fight or flight response. If neither brain can resolve the issue then it further collapses down to the core. Think of the core as an infant that can neither walk or talk. This core brain has been referred to that similar to a fish brain. When a fish encounters a threat it remains motionlessly still and hopes the threat will go away if it doesn't move. This effect is called "tonic immobility". One might use the word frozen to death. If a panic attack goes deep enough then a human may curl up in a fetal position, become motionless and they lose the ability to communicate.

Possums do this so often that the phrase "playing dead like a possum" was created. [Playing dead is an involuntary response on the part of the opossum. The stress of the confrontation facing the opossum causes him to go into shock. This shock induces a comatose state that can last from 40 minutes to four hours.] I have witnessed this quite often. When they are immobile, it is very difficult to determine if they are dead or alive. You can approach them and move their bodies around with a stick. It is almost like "rigor mortis" has set in. So you go about looking for a shovel to bury it. When you finally find the shovel you come back and it is gone. It very slowly woke up and walked off while you were gone.



I wonder if it's similar to what a fainting goat does? Have you ever seen a fainting goat?


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27 Nov 2019, 9:02 am

Persephone29 wrote:
I wonder if it's similar to what a fainting goat does? Have you ever seen a fainting goat?


I never heard of a fainting goat. But in general all mammals will exhibit this behavior if it is trapped and threatened and unable to see a way out. The state is called "tonic immobility".

According to the Internet:

Tonic immobility is a natural state of paralysis that animals enter, often called animal hypnosis. Its function is not certain. It may be related to mating in certain animals like sharks. It may also be a way of avoiding or deterring predators (playing dead is called thanatosis).

Goats are among the most exciteable of Earth’s creatures—one expert has attested that “it does not take much for them to scream bloody murder,” and the Greek god Pan, namesake of panic itself, was half-goat. To top it off, certain of them straight-up fall down when they get scared. These particular goats have a condition called myotonia congenita, which means it takes their muscles a while to relax after seizing up. Because fear involves rapid muscle clenching, they get frozen in position and keel over.


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27 Nov 2019, 9:16 am

jimmy m wrote:
Persephone29 wrote:
I wonder if it's similar to what a fainting goat does? Have you ever seen a fainting goat?


I never heard of a fainting goat. But in general all mammals will exhibit this behavior if it is trapped and threatened and unable to see a way out. The state is called "tonic immobility".

According to the Internet:

Tonic immobility is a natural state of paralysis that animals enter, often called animal hypnosis. Its function is not certain. It may be related to mating in certain animals like sharks. It may also be a way of avoiding or deterring predators (playing dead is called thanatosis).

Goats are among the most exciteable of Earth’s creatures—one expert has attested that “it does not take much for them to scream bloody murder,” and the Greek god Pan, namesake of panic itself, was half-goat. To top it off, certain of them straight-up fall down when they get scared. These particular goats have a condition called myotonia congenita, which means it takes their muscles a while to relax after seizing up. Because fear involves rapid muscle clenching, they get frozen in position and keel over.



Interesting, Jimmy m. Thank you! I've seen videos of some fainting goats falling over like a tree, from being scared. But, I've also recently viewed a video where just the exertion of jumping over an obstacle caused all three goats to fall over. That could really be a liability. But, I guess like every other prey, you'd just need to be the last goat to faint.


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30 Nov 2019, 2:38 pm

Happens to me all the time.

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