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09 Oct 2020, 1:32 am

There are two ways I know;

One is to desensitize, with any defence mechanisms in the arsenal.
Two is to take it in full force with unconditional acceptance, one by simply letting it through.



The first bit is mental, may require more mental stamina and control whenever it hits your face.
Maybe you get used to it or get numb, maybe you don't and it never gets easier.

The second is more or less the opposite, and it's tricky.
It's like trying to get overwhelmed without being overwhelmed the wrong way.
If only I can explain it, but all I know desensitization or suppression isn't a choice in this path.


Those are just... Options to consider.


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09 Oct 2020, 1:48 am

I hate all cruelty to animals. I've become upset just by being out on the road and seeing a truck crowded with cattle or sheep going to the market or abattoir. I once grew upset in the supermarket seeing blood at the bottom of a bag of chicken and chose not to buy it - I am not vegetarian but have been through vegetarian phases. So has my sister!

Most movies involving animals have a disclaimer you'll see during the screen credits which states "no animals were harmed during the making of this movie". They usually have animal experts used as consultants, and scenes are filmed under their supervision.

Indeed only sickos would find any pleasure at all in having animals suffer. I would probably have committed suicide if I had to work in an abattoir or in a butchery.


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09 Oct 2020, 2:33 am

Any animal cruelty you see on film is all fake and staged. They create puppets to look like the actual animal when they torture it on film. They wouldn't actually set live animals on fire or have actors beat them or be cruel to them. They create robots and make them look like an actual animal and they are called puppets.

I have never seen the film and never heard of it until you mentioned it and it's an old film from the late 1970's.


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09 Oct 2020, 10:39 am

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About 2 years ago I watched the movie Cannibal Holocaust, which was great with how they made it all look so realistic. But one scene did disturb me and to this day I still feel distressed whenever I think about it. It's where the people cut into a rodent (I think it was a rodent) while it was still alive, and it was screaming helplessly. I heard this scene was actually live, which is why I find it extremely distressing. Why didn't they knock the poor thing out before cutting its body open? Then it wouldn't have felt any pain.
My empathy for this poor creature is very overwhelming. Can someone please help me to stop thinking about it? :cry:


Allistic kents are allistic kents. <shrug>

I seriously doubt it actually happened.
Computer-generated imagery is extremely realistic.
I think there are animal cruelty laws against this sort of thing in movies, these days.
Is it an old movie?


It's not something I think about every day by the way, but it just pops in my mind sometimes and I get really disturbed by it. Maybe it's because I have pet rats myself, which are rodents, so that might be why I am so disturbed by it.

If it is true that it's CGI, then I can feel more relaxed about it.



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Do you think this is common for people on the spectrum? I have little to no empathy for people, but too much for animals.


I've already explained the empathy thing. I feel physical empathy for animals, but emotional empathy for humans. I don't want people to go thinking I lack empathy for humans.


I know what you mean, I felt the same way about that scene from Man's Best Friend as I had a ginger cat at the time I saw that.



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09 Oct 2020, 11:05 am

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I don't like horror movies and I don't watch them because again, I think there are some sick people out there who have a twisted sense of entertainment. As Joe90 said, what happened during WWII was a living horror movie.

I do like some horror/suspense movies, and the ones I do like are scary without excessive gore or cruelty. M. Night Shyamalan's films are excellent in my opinion. The X-files also did some episodes that could be considered horror, and that was a great show.
I just don't recommend watching horror if you are struggling with any mental disorders (anxiety, depression, PTSD, etc.) at the time. I started watching the show the Walking Dead, but had to stop watching because it gave me nightmares and triggered my PTSD. It was just so cruel and brutal (and not just because of zombies).
As a side note, my avatar pic is from a horror movie in which the title character has the same first name as me. I've never seen the movie, and probably wouldn't watch it, because I read that the title character is an innocent girl who gets murdered in a horrible manner (and comes back as a vengeful spirit or something?) I chose it because of my name and because it looked cool and captures my fiery, crazy personality :D


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09 Oct 2020, 12:13 pm

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Any animal cruelty you see on film is all fake and staged. They create puppets to look like the actual animal when they torture it on film. They wouldn't actually set live animals on fire or have actors beat them or be cruel to them. They create robots and make them look like an actual animal and they are called puppets.

I have never seen the film and never heard of it until you mentioned it and it's an old film from the late 1970's.


It's an old movie that's notorious for the scenes involving animal cruelty being real and not staged as you suggest. It has no disclaimers about 'no animals were harmed' because animals were harmed.


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09 Oct 2020, 12:15 pm

AP, Your avatar reminds me a bit of a comic book story I had as a boy, called Scourge of the White-Eyes.

Horror should have a story to tell and not just be gratuitously violent for shocker points.

@XFE: I'd rather not go near it or know any more about it that what's been posted here...


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09 Oct 2020, 12:18 pm

envirozentinel wrote:
Horror should have a story to tell and not just be gratuitously violent for shocker points.

@XFE: I'd rather not go near it or know any more about it that what's been posted here...


For what it's worth, this film is more of an exploitation film than a traditional horror movie.


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09 Oct 2020, 12:40 pm

Something traumatic along these lines also happened to me when I was in high school. I grew up in a very rural area where agriculture is big. My high school had, and still has, a large agricultural education magnet program. When I was a senior I took a floral design class that was taught by the same teacher that taught the ag classes. One day, when we were working on our nice flower arrangements in class, one of the ag students came in to our classroom and put a video in the vhs player. The teacher was ok with this and she went over and started watching it too. To my horror, the video was of a pig being brutally killed and butchered. It showed everything in graphic detail and was very bloody and gory. It was obviously real and was videotaped by one of the ag students. It showed the pig alive and well at the beginning. I wanted to look away but was so shocked I couldn't. I went to the bathroom and was sick. I don't know what the teacher was thinking, allowing this to be shown. The worst part is the students and the teacher were laughing at the video! I went home and told my mom, who was furious and horrified, but she said she was afraid that if we reported the teacher the teacher might retaliate by giving me bad grades, or friends of the students who showed the video might do something bad to me. I had nightmares and couldn't eat meat for a while after this.


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09 Oct 2020, 1:25 pm

^That's horrible and shouldn't have been allowed. More emotional and sensitive people can't handle that well. And most of us on the spectrum are thus, and have more empathy than most, although there are exceptions.


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09 Oct 2020, 3:29 pm

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Any animal cruelty you see on film is all fake and staged. They create puppets to look like the actual animal when they torture it on film. They wouldn't actually set live animals on fire or have actors beat them or be cruel to them. They create robots and make them look like an actual animal and they are called puppets.

I have never seen the film and never heard of it until you mentioned it and it's an old film from the late 1970's.


It's an old movie that's notorious for the scenes involving animal cruelty being real and not staged as you suggest. It has no disclaimers about 'no animals were harmed' because animals were harmed.


Oh God. That poor rodent. :cry:


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09 Oct 2020, 3:32 pm

^I agree. But it was a long time ago and things have improved since then, with legislation being passed to protect animals of all kinds and prevent that sort of abuse from happening.


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09 Oct 2020, 3:41 pm

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^I agree. But it was a long time ago and things have improved since then, with legislation being passed to protect animals of all kinds and prevent that sort of abuse from happening.


But the rodent was inhumanely stabbed alive and it was screaming as loud as it possibly could. I feel like I want to cry. Why didn't they just knock it out before cutting it open, so that it wouldn't feel any pain?

I'm just freaking out about it because I have rodents myself. I know rodents get eaten by cats in the wild but I think this poor thing went through more pain being held and slit open than one would be when getting killed by a cat. And rodents instinctively know that cats are predators so I think most rodents die of fright before being eaten by cats. But in this movie, the poor thing didn't have time to die of fright. :cry:


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09 Oct 2020, 3:45 pm

I know its terrible but you are not responsible for the evil actions of others. All we can do is be kind to the animals we have control over. I trust it didn't suffer too long. i also know how difficult it can be to get such cruel imagery out of your mind. Focus on looking for some of the cute animal videos clips available on You Tube. They should make you feel better.


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09 Oct 2020, 5:28 pm

I don't know if there is a way to full-on stop being upset or disturbed by something that is upsetting and disturbing. In the past year I've been trying to master "mindfulness" exercises in order to be able to independently shift my mind focus from something upsetting to something less so. Perhaps it's premature to recommend something that I haven't been able to master yet, but I can say that it helps. It takes practice, ultimately.

The first step is noticing/realizing you're having a thought that upsets and disturbs you, and to say to yourself, kindly, that it's okay to have those thoughts, and it's also okay not to. The hardest part is to gently box up and shelve the upsetting thought, or place it inside a bubble, or send it down a river on a leaf, or employ another mental image works for you. The idea is that it frees your mind up to think about something else in a way that is not against your will, or a mental battle between positive and negative thoughts.

I recognize that mind exercises can be extremely challenging. If two-years-ago-me had received the message I just wrote, I'd have probably rolled my eyes at the audacity and felt even worse because my mental train of thought can feel like such a powerful, uncontrollable beast. But if it helps in any way at all, I hope it can bring some mental relief.



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09 Oct 2020, 11:24 pm

Go online and find a picture of the movie director. And then...imagine him being fed alive into wood chipper!

Joking. But many a truth is spoken in jest.

I do relate. I was upset by a book (wasnt even the book, just reviews of the book) that came out like ten years ago. It was a then new history book about Japanese atrocities in China in the lead up to world war two. It haunted me for weeks. Happened to be seeing a shrink anyway so I could use the shrink to talk about it. That did help.

All that I can say is go ahead allow yourself to feel upset. Dont be be ashamed of being upset. Allowing yourself to be upset actually helps to stop being upset.