I’m feeling a bit trumpy today :D
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Fnord wrote:
I am worried, Goldie.
What if he says he is coming back for his bonus severance money, but he "goes postal", instead?
Please be careful!
What if he says he is coming back for his bonus severance money, but he "goes postal", instead?
Please be careful!
This guy is *verbally* abusive - not violent. I highly doubt he'll be violent. He's probably been fired many times before.
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goldfish21 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I am worried, Goldie.
What if he says he is coming back for his bonus severance money, but he "goes postal", instead?
Please be careful!
What if he says he is coming back for his bonus severance money, but he "goes postal", instead?
Please be careful!
This guy is *verbally* abusive - not violent. I highly doubt he'll be violent. He's probably been fired many times before.
I would still be prepared for him to possibly do something. You never quite know what people are seriously thinking of doing when they are stressed or angry. Be prepared for anything he might do. It may be overkill, but better safe than sorry. Carry a tape recorder at the very least, as it may capture evidence if he does do something crazy.
At a different university, I once had a tenured professor in my department challenge me to a fistfight right outside my office. (Being the head of the safety committee, I was required to report on him not using required eye protection while handling chemicals in a research lab, along with his research students.) He thought he could take his anger out on me that way. I taped his threat with my laptop recorder and sent it up the ladder. He left at the end of the semester after his tenure was terminated by the administration. He still teaches, but at a much lower level place now.
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r00tb33r wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I am worried, Goldie.
What if he says he is coming back for his bonus severance money, but he "goes postal", instead?
Please be careful!
What if he says he is coming back for his bonus severance money, but he "goes postal", instead?
Please be careful!
Speaking of postal... Can't you just mail him his check? Tell him he's not allowed on the property anymore and he would be trespassing.
Yeah, that's possible. He could sign & mail the document.
It was a couple hour process to delete/block/log him out of all company accounts, security access, keys, lock boxes, online accounts, internal accounts etc etc - he can't get into anything - not a supplier account, not a social media account, not the building or even the parking lot gate once it's closed & locked at night. Plus there are cameras everywhere inside and outside and on the roof etc. AFAIK he's never been a thief of anything except for company time a bit, and while he's a RAGING a**hole, he doesn't have much of a history of violence except for maybe some fist fights 15-20 years ago. I don't think he's an actual physical threat to anyone - he's just verbally abusive and extremely abrasive. Just not the type of guy you can have talking to $M accounts on the phone because if they annoy him he tells them to "F OFF!" as if their $$$ doesn't matter to the company, or the kind of guy you can have interacting with almost anyone internally - never mind customers - he's so.. just nasty with people, insulting their skills/abilities/talents etc - I mean, s**t, a couple of these guys are top 1% talent that could hop a plane to Silicon Valley and have a limo waiting for them at the airport to take them to a bidding war for their employment contract.. and he calls them useless, says they get nothing done, their work sucks, the team he managed in software at EA in the past would have finished everything by now and it would be better blah blah blah - dude, stfu. You have no idea what you're talking about and you're making people want to leave the company just to not have to be on the receiving end of your abuse.
Whatev's. Not anymore. It's nice to vent about how ridiculous the guy was here, though! But professionally we will all be moving on extremely rapidly - we have work to do! Good, EXCITING, work to do!
Annnd the owner chatted with the employees that were in the office yesterday (not working from home, wish more were on site but oh well) & then I chatted with the owner to find out what he said and forgot to say, then went and chatted with the two that were there for a good couple hours and they're okay - they really understand & accept the decision, they understand that it was Not my recommendation as a result of my current consulting project role, that it was a long time coming & while it sucks to lose their work buddy, they Get that it will be leaps and bound better for the business Now and as it grows Extremely Rapidly with far more employees & customers of all kinds. They get that that guy wasn't willing to be a better version of himself in any way, and that he was holding the company back from executing it's expansion plans - BIG TIME. Relations between departments will be better, between coworkers, the owner, dealers & customers etc.
This guy WAS highly valuable for his unique expertise; so it truly is a shame he had to go. Without him others will have to do their best to cover his workload & learn things etc, but all of that will be for the better in the long run. And there will be no more $25K+ worth of time & brain power conversations by the executive team discussing his latest round of BS. What a waste of time! All of that can no be redirected into moving everything forward as fast as possible.
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QuantumChemist wrote:
goldfish21 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
I am worried, Goldie.
What if he says he is coming back for his bonus severance money, but he "goes postal", instead?
Please be careful!
What if he says he is coming back for his bonus severance money, but he "goes postal", instead?
Please be careful!
This guy is *verbally* abusive - not violent. I highly doubt he'll be violent. He's probably been fired many times before.
I would still be prepared for him to possibly do something. You never quite know what people are seriously thinking of doing when they are stressed or angry. Be prepared for anything he might do. It may be overkill, but better safe than sorry. Carry a tape recorder at the very least, as it may capture evidence if he does do something crazy.
At a different university, I once had a tenured professor in my department challenge me to a fistfight right outside my office. (Being the head of the safety committee, I was required to report on him not using required eye protection while handling chemicals in a research lab, along with his research students.) He thought he could take his anger out on me that way. I taped his threat with my laptop recorder and sent it up the ladder. He left at the end of the semester after his tenure was terminated by the administration. He still teaches, but at a much lower level place now.
He's verbally horrendous, but physically not a threat of violence. And while I'm not in my peak physical condition, I'm still taller & stronger than he is - if he did decide to f**k around in the physical sense, he'd Also find out right quick in the physical sense. I'm not concerned about this guy in the least bit.
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