Sexual Assault by Another Person w/ an ASD Dx

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05 Mar 2021, 11:57 am

And I agree sex offenders need help.

However they can get help away from people who are vulnerable.


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05 Mar 2021, 12:01 pm

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05 Mar 2021, 8:33 pm

BTW, this quote just disgusts me:

“ Very few NT people get involved in sex crime either, for that matter. But those that do are highly visible and the autistic ones I have met needed help much more than punishment. Ignoring that reality is like ignoring the teachers who locked autistic people in basements at school when I was a kid.”

Victims of sex crimes are also locked in a prison in their minds. Even if they have years of therapy they can never complete escape.

And he wants to talk about children who were abused in schools. So was I actually. And this comparison makes me sick.

Article: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.psycho ... bout%3famp


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05 Mar 2021, 11:45 pm

And tbh, sometimes this makes me feel like I will never find a romantic relationship because someone who is NT may not want me and IDK if I could trust an aspie guy because of the past ones having issues (it’s not fair but I would still be nervous).

I just hate how this has made me.


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05 Mar 2021, 11:56 pm

I feel dirty all the time now as well after an incident where some creep looked out the window at me for around a year. And then a shooting incident happened and then I found out stuff that was...sick.

I just hate this all.


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07 Mar 2021, 7:42 pm

magz wrote:
I'm wondering why you are so focused on John Elder Robison.
I read his book and I'm now reading the Wiki article on him and I find nothing about child porn.



He once did a page on his blog about autism and child porn making the link between the two. I think he may have deleted it because I cannot find it anymore via search. Now it's all hearsay when people mention it. It was just an essay he wrote. I recall someone shared it here too and I was not pleased with it and also saw it as excuses.

Edit, seems like the article was found but now it's on another website. Got linked here already.


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07 Mar 2021, 11:01 pm

I mean I honestly don’t see myself as having ASD, because I got out of that situation faster than someone who had it would have.

Like...from what I can see women with ASD get into abusive situations for years and years on end...that’s not me.

I also know how to read people.


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08 Mar 2021, 4:08 am

"Women on the spectrum getting into abusive situations for years and years" is just another sweeping generalisation.
We are at higher risk of overlooking red flags but, on the other hand, we can be more resistant to common manipulative techniques once we do realize something's wrong.
Also, each person - on the spectrum or not - writes their own story.


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08 Mar 2021, 5:09 am

Sometimes lack of social skills can be interpreted as sexual harassment, and I realise whatever the guy can understand or not the girl who feels uncomfortable, she still feels uncomfortable, those on the spectrum or NT men who have no idea how to aproach women when they want to persue a relationship, few attempts can be interpreted as sexual harassment or even if the actions may qualify as such some may not realise, I'm saying this because I did make a woman uncomfortable without actually realising that, unless you claim intention is irrelevant, then ok then, whatever. Having to learn the hard way that you can be accused of a crime for making someone feel uncomfortable when you try something (which it leads to two choices after the experience, wanting to learn to avoid future problems or giving up because it feels like a burden), but fortunately for me I wasn't accused to authorities just that she got mad and left, I was lucky it was decades ago.

I have also been sexually harrased so I know how it feels, to me intention is an important factor even though some people don't seem to care. And in my case, it was pretty clear to me the intention was there.



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08 Mar 2021, 11:29 am

binstein wrote:
Sometimes lack of social skills can be interpreted as sexual harassment, and I realise whatever the guy can understand or not the girl who feels uncomfortable, she still feels uncomfortable, those on the spectrum or NT men who have no idea how to aproach women when they want to persue a relationship, few attempts can be interpreted as sexual harassment or even if the actions may qualify as such some may not realise, I'm saying this because I did make a woman uncomfortable without actually realising that, unless you claim intention is irrelevant, then ok then, whatever. Having to learn the hard way that you can be accused of a crime for making someone feel uncomfortable when you try something (which it leads to two choices after the experience, wanting to learn to avoid future problems or giving up because it feels like a burden), but fortunately for me I wasn't accused to authorities just that she got mad and left, I was lucky it was decades ago.

I have also been sexually harrased so I know how it feels, to me intention is an important factor even though some people don't seem to care. And in my case, it was pretty clear to me the intention was there.


I am talking about sexual assault.


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08 Mar 2021, 11:35 am

magz wrote:
"Women on the spectrum getting into abusive situations for years and years" is just another sweeping generalisation.
We are at higher risk of overlooking red flags but, on the other hand, we can be more resistant to common manipulative techniques once we do realize something's wrong.
Also, each person - on the spectrum or not - writes their own story.


People make generalizations. It’s part of life.

And tbh, it’s what I have read in books about autism. Or that’s how I interpreted the stuff I read. Each person interprets things differently.

And each person does write their own story.

Personally, I find it hard to talk on here because anything negative I say about the fact that I have an ASD diagnosis and my questioning it seems to be taken personally by people here.


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08 Mar 2021, 11:51 am

I am willing to admit I could be wrong.

What I type is how I interpret things.

And in a thread like this about something like a traumatic event I think I may write stuff that may be hard for some people to read.

And I don’t write anything to offend anyone. However, I will say that it does make me feel angry when someone claims that I am making a bunch of generalizations when the info put out about ASD by “experts” suggests that woman with this disorder are victims a lot of the time. More than not.

Like all of the advice geared towards autistic/aspie women being so common sense just makes me interpret a lot of this in a certain way.

I have no idea how to explain it exactly because having to write every little thing out fills me with rage.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog ... -dangerous


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08 Mar 2021, 11:58 am

I'm sorry.
I didn't want you to feel invalidated.
It's just like with those who e.g. say they couldn't succeed professionally because there are higher chances of being unemployed when you have ASD vs when you don't. These statistics can be true but making life decisions based on them or discarding a diagnosis because of someone's relative success may be a very bad idea.
However, I'm sorry if I turned out inconsiderate to your experiences. I didn't mean it.


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08 Mar 2021, 12:07 pm

magz wrote:
I'm sorry.
I didn't want you to feel invalidated.
It's just like with those who e.g. say they couldn't succeed professionally because there are higher chances of being unemployed when you have ASD vs when you don't. These statistics can be true but making life decisions based on them or discarding a diagnosis because of someone's relative success may be a very bad idea.
However, I'm sorry if I turned out inconsiderate to your experiences. I didn't mean it.


I am not going to do anything official like get rid of my ASD diagnosis and go and get one that says I am a psychopath.

But I will say, the characters like Dexter, and other psychopathic characters who are well written who have trauma in their past are ones I relate to even tho I am not violent.

Alice from Batwoman (on the CW) is a character I strongly relate to.

The concept of psychopathy is evolving. And the ones who are called “subclinical” are interesting. They have enough characteristics to be somewhat psychopathic but they don’t slip into a life of total crime and chaos like one who has the entire disorder.

In fact, masking I first read about as a young teen in the context of psychopathy.

Until high school I never considered that diagnosis because I had only read about serial killers with it and such.

However in high school I read a book by M.E. Thomas. And I related strongly to it.

And I figured I needed some rules and such to live by. So I made some. Mainly they involve causing as little problems for people around me unless they cause me one. Not hurting vulnerable people and animals. And mostly staying within the law.

The ones who are fully fledged psychopaths in most cases are not able to do so.

But we all make choices.


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08 Mar 2021, 12:08 pm

magz wrote:
I'm sorry.
I didn't want you to feel invalidated.
It's just like with those who e.g. say they couldn't succeed professionally because there are higher chances of being unemployed when you have ASD vs when you don't. These statistics can be true but making life decisions based on them or discarding a diagnosis because of someone's relative success may be a very bad idea.
However, I'm sorry if I turned out inconsiderate to your experiences. I didn't mean it.


And I am going to be direct, on the topic of my history of sexual assault I have a lot of rage.

So I may not be the nicest on this.

Meaning I may all out be mean at times. But I will try not to be.


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08 Mar 2021, 12:39 pm

CollegeGirlAnon wrote:
The concept of psychopathy is evolving. And the ones who are called “subclinical” are interesting. They have enough characteristics to be somewhat psychopathic but they don’t slip into a life of total crime and chaos like one who has the entire disorder.

When I read the description of "primary psychopathy", I thought of two of my real life friends.
Yes, real friends.
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