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Sean
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10 Jul 2005, 9:49 am

I hear ya HB. I can't seem to get a clos to my couple of (relatively distant) friends as I'd like to be. I can't seem to let people that close lately. Getting to go do activities with friends and neighbors, but always seem to run into logistical problems that prevent me from going.

It seems like my parents just want to throw money at me to make me go away most of the time now while they persue more ineraction with my brother and sister in law. In addition to all the times they've slipped out the door when I wasn't paying attention to go have dinner with my brother an his wife, they've also left me behind twice on Easter and once this last Mother's Day. I'm suire they would have done it again this last Easter, but I need to be at church earlier than them. They tried to do it to me again last Father's day when the plans were changed by my brother from early afternoon to morning and my parents were just going to leave and be back before I woke up, but I was awake in bed due to insomia, so I was able to hear enought activity outside my door to know that something was up. That's the things that really have a negative impact on my sense of self worth. It's not like I do anything unpleasant that woulod warrant wanting to avoid me either. I'm not so sure my ties to my family will last forever, though I'm not sure which of us is more likely to sever them.



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10 Jul 2005, 10:27 am

Sleep. Masturbate. Abuse drugs. Play online games. Talk online. Sleep.

In that order. ^_^


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10 Jul 2005, 12:09 pm

Sorry I have no strategies. I am preety much by myself most of the time.



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10 Jul 2005, 2:25 pm

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[rant]I don't keep much of a social circle and didn't have much of a porblem with this a few years ago when I did. However, my parents were and often still are the worst when it comes to this. I understand that it's good for my parents to get to do things alone together, but the measures they've gone through to exclude me from activities with my brother and new sister in law still piss me off just thinkng about it. :evil: I can acknowledge the fact that by brother and sister in law are more fun to be around than me, but the lengths they've gone through to ditch me (as well as some failed attempts :twisted: ) is apalling to me. I've come to feel a sense of satisfaction that when they try and fail to do this to me, that they feel a sense of disappointment about the family event. I usually put up a partial NT facade, so it's not like I'm being rude and bizare to anybody either. :roll: If I go into anymore detail, I'll probably be pissed for the next week. Maybe if I ever manage to get married, I'll have a formal wedding, not Invite them, and tell them, "Oh, I didn't think you would want to come".[/rant]


I've been through more or less the same and I can get really bummed out and pissed off at my family, or anybody else that makes a point of excluding me. --And sadly I still do. Rejection hurts, and that's an undeniable constant of the human condition.
However, I've also made it a point to ditch those that have done the same to me . If they don't like me enough to include me, then hey, they're NOT people that I consider 'Freinds' or 'Family' anyways. It's a reciprocal thing. If they they want to exclude me fine, they I'll happily do what I can to ensure that my contact with them is non-existant. Forget half measures, it's all of the way, or not at all. --And it's just that simple.

I don't know what your situation is, but if you're able to get outta there, and break off contact, make haste and do so. At least for a year or two, and see what happens.



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10 Jul 2005, 5:15 pm

Sean wrote:
I hear ya HB. I can't seem to get a clos to my couple of (relatively distant) friends as I'd like to be. I can't seem to let people that close lately. Getting to go do activities with friends and neighbors, but always seem to run into logistical problems that prevent me from going.

It seems like my parents just want to throw money at me to make me go away most of the time now while they persue more ineraction with my brother and sister in law. In addition to all the times they've slipped out the door when I wasn't paying attention to go have dinner with my brother an his wife, they've also left me behind twice on Easter and once this last Mother's Day. I'm suire they would have done it again this last Easter, but I need to be at church earlier than them. They tried to do it to me again last Father's day when the plans were changed by my brother from early afternoon to morning and my parents were just going to leave and be back before I woke up, but I was awake in bed due to insomia, so I was able to hear enought activity outside my door to know that something was up. That's the things that really have a negative impact on my sense of self worth. It's not like I do anything unpleasant that woulod warrant wanting to avoid me either. I'm not so sure my ties to my family will last forever, though I'm not sure which of us is more likely to sever them.


Sean, Have you told your parents how you feel about this?

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10 Jul 2005, 6:47 pm

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Sean, Have you told your parents how you feel about this?

GA

They always rationalize that it's somehow my fault and try to put a guilt trip on me for bringing it up. I've argued in circles with them about individual incidents on lots of occasions and nothing ever changes.



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10 Jul 2005, 9:02 pm

Sean wrote:
GalileoAce wrote:
Sean, Have you told your parents how you feel about this?

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They always rationalize that it's somehow my fault and try to put a guilt trip on me for bringing it up. I've argued in circles with them about individual incidents on lots of occasions and nothing ever changes.


Hmm, it's your fault? Oh, guess it's your fault you don't have psychic powers to find out when they're planning some activity they haven't included you in. How cruel! :x



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10 Jul 2005, 9:10 pm

Your parents sound like a**holes.

Sorry, it had to be said.



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10 Jul 2005, 10:20 pm

I'm gonna have to agree with Hale_bopp here...

My parents sorta started to go places without me, sometimes I didn't care, until I found out where they went... Like to Dreamworld one time...(that incident was ok, it was for my sister and her friends, so I wasn't really invited anyways), so I ended up telling that I'd like to be asked, being left out hurt my feelings. That made them change, they then asked me "You don't wanna come with us?" "No, thanks." "Didn't think so. See you later, be good." or something like that... But at least we came to an understanding...

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11 Jul 2005, 5:11 pm

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[rant]I don't keep much of a social circle and
didn't have much of a porblem with this a few
years ago when I did.


sean wrote:
However, my parents were and often still are
the worst when it comes to this.


sean wrote:
I understand that it's good for my parents to get
to do things alone together, but the measures
they've gone through to exclude me from
activities with my brother and new sister in
law still piss me off just thinkng about it.


Why is this relationshion with you parents sour?
Is it because of the Aspergers? or are they in
denial that there is such a creature called Aspergers?

Was it due to some kind of behaviour you did as a child?

Hmmmm?

sean wrote:
I can acknowledge the fact that by brother and sister
in law are more fun to be around than me,


sean wrote:
but the lengths they've gone through to ditch me
(as well as some failed attempts ) is apalling to me.


What are some of these lengths?

sean wrote:
I've come to feel a sense of satisfaction that when they try
and fail to do this to me, that they feel a sense of
disappointment about the family event.


I will reverse this prior question! What lengths do
you go to cause this?

sean wrote:
I usually put up a partial NT facade, so it's not like
I'm being rude and bizare to anybody either.


sean wrote:
If I go into anymore detail, I'll probably be pissed for the
next week. Maybe if I ever manage to get married, I'll
have a formal wedding, not Invite them, and tell them,
"Oh, I didn't think you would want to come".[/rant]


I am not trying to piss you off! We may not see eye to
eye, but I still respect you! I make my inquiries to perhaps
help you understand yourself, and myself understand you!

Hmmmmmm?
You-know-who!



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11 Jul 2005, 5:44 pm

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Sleep. Masturbate. Abuse drugs. Play online games. Talk online. Sleep.

In that order. ^_^


Nomaken, you're somethin' else... :wink:


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11 Jul 2005, 6:43 pm

hale_bopp wrote:
Your parents sound like a**holes.

Sorry, it had to be said.

When it comes to family events, yeah. They are usually cooler than most parents I know when it comes to most other aspects of intersction and living with them. The only theory I can come up with for wanting to spend time with my brother without me is that I never formed a "normal" emotional bond with my parents and the extent of the bond that my brother was able to form more than made up for my lack thereof. I suspect that his bond plays some factor that I don't understand in my parent's plans for (immediate) family gatherings.