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24 Aug 2007, 10:40 pm

Well for one thing you're claiming to know the answer to a question with infinite possibilities and writing off any valid arguments by simply stating "not true."



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24 Aug 2007, 10:42 pm

orly. you can look up anything i said and actually find it out to be true


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24 Aug 2007, 10:47 pm

Todd489 wrote:
.Which, of course, makes even less sense. The ultimate goal of Christians is "heaven," a state of eternal bliss. I ask you, what can a man possibly think about in a state of total bliss?
he cant according to my god


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24 Aug 2007, 10:49 pm

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What virtuous things could someone do in heaven? Absolutely nothing
i dunno. have you ever been there?


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24 Aug 2007, 10:50 pm

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Going to heaven means being reduced to an animal state.
id rather be an animal in a garden than burn forever


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24 Aug 2007, 10:51 pm

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what exactly am i saying here that is confusing

I was kidding :P, I actually thought you didn't care about these things, it's not actually confusing but a little suprising, it seemed contradictory to some, but it doesn't have to be, there are not just two or three points of view on everything, so yours might be different from all the others I suppose. I understand that there are people that believe in Jesus in a totally different way.


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24 Aug 2007, 10:52 pm

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Why would "God" punish us for our virtue by taking away our ability to be virtuous?
i dont know god what say you?


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24 Aug 2007, 10:53 pm

Well, whatever. Have fun dedicating your life to freeing yourself from the "torture" of being a conscious human being.



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24 Aug 2007, 10:55 pm

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I believe that the only real sin is not thinking.
i believe you can be both smart and religious, wasnt albert einstein a...


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24 Aug 2007, 10:59 pm

richardbenson wrote:
Todd489 wrote:
I believe that the only real sin is not thinking.
i believe you can be both smart and religious, wasnt albert einstein a...

I believe Einstein was either atheist or agnostic.


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24 Aug 2007, 11:00 pm

i think he belived in god


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24 Aug 2007, 11:03 pm

I don't know, I read somewhere that he didn't, some people claim he was agnostic, some say he was atheist. Most likely agnostic I would say but I'm not sure.


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24 Aug 2007, 11:03 pm

I have repeatedly said that in my opinion the idea of a personal God is a childlike one, but I do not share the crusading spirit of the professional atheist whose fervor is mostly due to a painful act of liberation from the fetters of religious indoctrination received in youth. I prefer an attitude of humility corresponding to the weakness of our intellectual understanding of nature and of our own being. (Albert Einstein)


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24 Aug 2007, 11:03 pm

He believed in God.

He said something like, "All my discoveries have only shown to me that there is a Higehr Power." except not mispelled



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24 Aug 2007, 11:05 pm

The difference is that Einstein CHOSE to believe in God. Most people, however, only believe in God because their parents and priests used to scare them with stories of hell designed to indoctrinate them into a state of unthinking obediance. Much like a master trains a dog.

Watch the documentary called "Jesus Camp." to see what I mean. Those kids will never be able to make their own choices because they are so brainwashed with Xtianity.



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24 Aug 2007, 11:06 pm

i dont need to watch anything todd. if you cant see past the bs like in everything else in life i dont know why i havent been that black dude handing you the green or blue pill just like in the matrix and been a major block buster hit


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