We're taking in White Afrikaner refugees now

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12 May 2025, 12:47 pm

Yes indeed. Crime is high and there's a lot of rape, gang warfare etc but generally it's peaceful and most people can go about their daily tasks like in most countries. Most properties in more upmarket areas are well secured a la fortress standard. Some have high walls well locked and often with electric fencing. But there's more black on black crime than black on white, and the small city of Port Elizabeth has encountered many gang related murders in the mainly coloured community ately.


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12 May 2025, 4:59 pm

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It turns out that you can't take farmland that's being productively and hand it over to people that have no knowledge or intention related to farming and expect it to work out when it's such a large portion of your economy. I do get that there needed to be reallocation of the land to better represent the people eventually, but it turned out worse than if they had just instituted a tax to pay a UBI to those who didn't have property or the opportunity to buy it in the country due to colonial rule.


Yeah this seems to be a major factor. Wine growing for example. there is a culture and tradition behind wine growing and brewing beer. It was quite silly to force both these lucrative industries to be "black owned" when traditional African societies have no connection to the this type of business which is more artform > factory assemblyline.

But more importantly (as trevor Noah points out in his comedy) the ANC have appointed nepo-babies into positions of power over things like electrical power. I cannot believe how wanton rorting by Jacob Zuma on a level with the Duvaliers of Haiti is taking place on the ANCs watch and quite clearly nobody is saying anything as they don't want to lose their jobs.



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12 May 2025, 5:04 pm

envirozentinel wrote:
Yes indeed. Crime is high and there's a lot of rape, gang warfare etc but generally it's peaceful and most people can go about their daily tasks like in most countries. Most properties in more upmarket areas are well secured a la fortress standard. Some have high walls well locked and often with electric fencing. But there's more black on black crime than black on white, and the small city of Port Elizabeth has encountered many gang related murders in the mainly coloured community ately.


I feel sorry for communities like the Indians and coloureds. they were second class citizens during apartheid and now second class citizens under the ANC. Indians in particular are highly vilified for the economic and academic success (despite the barriers in front of them). this sentiment was also echoed in Kenya and Uganda.



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12 May 2025, 6:40 pm

My two favorite Afrikaners



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12 May 2025, 6:49 pm

Leon Schuster used to have a Candid Camera type of show, where he would disguise himself as various ethnicities. Here is Robbie Wessels himself, caught in one of his pranks.



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12 May 2025, 9:45 pm

We are beautiful like diamonds in sky? I still don't own a Tanzanite diamond, have only few crystals though.
Suppose Hungarians very slow at business, so Germany and Finland get Microsoft ai contract in fillipinos.

With this monkey business I'm really wasting my time because honestly if I was ever going to be included in list South African business owners it would have happened by now. So I've discussed viable options with Swiss on how to work together but most of my work income is Australia/us based so I'm caught in fig of war, not hard hard to understand which side bread is buttered, I've always tried to be considerate of others slavery/sweat/suffering or investments.

For long time dutchie's have labeled me of martyred descent, and I don't have BEE partner either. Not that I'd behave like a German during apartheid to get my bills paid, but little consideration goes long way.
South Africa is beautiful country, pity for conflict. Many beautiful countries are exploited for being poor, somehow no shackles on me, but I'm not free,
Settlers or slave drivers are like men, they gang up to ensure slave never independent and tug tug even pit one slave nation against another. Sadly no one reoccupying India or Asia so neglect to care. But British still live like kings here, in Kingston town, sipping red wine

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12 May 2025, 11:22 pm

So lets just imagine ,how suddenly with Musk ox in office and buddies with Pres.That So. Afrikaaners are getting a free pass? Just a thought .. one has to wonder if these new immigrants are nothing but extended family and friends of Musky and his Dad.? :roll:


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13 May 2025, 2:53 am

What are the legal consequences of falsely claiming refugee status when you don't need it?



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13 May 2025, 3:17 am

Jono wrote:
What are the legal consequences of falsely claiming refugee status when you don't need it?


Apparently none. ICE aren't looking for northern Europeans.



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13 May 2025, 10:21 am

Afghans are going back.

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13 May 2025, 10:23 am

Guys! Guys! Hey, guys! I'm confused about something!
I hear Republicans talking aaaaaaaaall the time about how Democrats are the real racist party. They're the party of slavery and segregation!! They're the party of neo-Nazis and the Klan! (Just don't ask any actual Nazi or Klansman).

Yet, for some reason, now Republicans are trying to say Democrats have a pathological hatred for white people! Why's that? How come the apartheid crowd isn't more loved by the "party of Jim Crow"? I have been told by many confident, charismatic Republicans that Democrats think all black and brown people are inferior, so what's going on here exactly??? I legitimately need a conservative to explain this to me like I am an idiot, since I need to understand how conservatives explain this to themselves.


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13 May 2025, 10:26 am

Why doesn't Noem join the deported Afghan women so she can see how women are treated in that Taliban country.


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13 May 2025, 5:41 pm

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Why doesn't Noem join the deported Afghan women so she can see how women are treated in that Taliban country.


My guess is many of these politicians have developed a thick skin.



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13 May 2025, 5:45 pm

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Guys! Guys! Hey, guys! I'm confused about something!
I hear Republicans talking aaaaaaaaall the time about how Democrats are the real racist party. They're the party of slavery and segregation!! They're the party of neo-Nazis and the Klan! (Just don't ask any actual Nazi or Klansman).

Yet, for some reason, now Republicans are trying to say Democrats have a pathological hatred for white people! Why's that? How come the apartheid crowd isn't more loved by the "party of Jim Crow"? I have been told by many confident, charismatic Republicans that Democrats think all black and brown people are inferior, so what's going on here exactly??? I legitimately need a conservative to explain this to me like I am an idiot, since I need to understand how conservatives explain this to themselves.

this paper best explains why the democrats went from the party of white southerners to the party that has support of 90% of African Americans
https://economics.princeton.edu/working ... ld-debate/
Has a lot to do with Kennedy and civil rights...



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14 May 2025, 2:12 am

cyberdora wrote:
roronoa79 wrote:
Guys! Guys! Hey, guys! I'm confused about something!
I hear Republicans talking aaaaaaaaall the time about how Democrats are the real racist party. They're the party of slavery and segregation!! They're the party of neo-Nazis and the Klan! (Just don't ask any actual Nazi or Klansman).

Yet, for some reason, now Republicans are trying to say Democrats have a pathological hatred for white people! Why's that? How come the apartheid crowd isn't more loved by the "party of Jim Crow"? I have been told by many confident, charismatic Republicans that Democrats think all black and brown people are inferior, so what's going on here exactly??? I legitimately need a conservative to explain this to me like I am an idiot, since I need to understand how conservatives explain this to themselves.

this paper best explains why the democrats went from the party of white southerners to the party that has support of 90% of African Americans
https://economics.princeton.edu/working ... ld-debate/
Has a lot to do with Kennedy and civil rights...


And Nixen was probably the turning point for republicans becoming more conservative.



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14 May 2025, 2:14 am

Honey69 wrote:
https://apnews.com/article/trump-south-africa-refugees-afrikaners-white-9d6f87ae9b09ac21ba6ae2a2197b11d3

Seems very hypocritical, seeing as how we're deporting people whose situations are much more dire.



Well I think the cruelty is the point at this point, idk if any of you saw the sad video of like an 8 year old girl in handcuffs getting arrested for idk existing. Her little hands barely fit in the handcuffs and then the cop wanted her to get up into the police car with her hands bound behind and so she tried putting her foot up to get into the vehicle, but like with the cuffs there was no way that little girl would have been able to get up there by herself with her hands tied behind her back, but she was like 8 to 10 a young child, i just don't see any reason why they had to handcuff her, looked like an 8-10 year old girl like why do you need to handcuff an 8 to 10 years old girl? like what did that little girl in her winter jacket and kids ugg boots do to get detained like that. Idk it just kind of looked like me when I was 10, and it was a cute little girl they were arresting and so yeah I feel like that is messed up. But nah it was really messede up cause they detainted a 8-10 year old girl


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