The Israel genocide debate thread
ASPartOfMe wrote:
CherokeeDeathRose13 wrote:
I guess I can't contribute anything to this debate since I'm neither Jewish nor Muslim then. I'm not in the Middle East to see what is actually going on over there and all I have to go by is propaganda news articles online telling me about what's happening over there.
It's not that I don't care about the suffering going on, but I'm powerless to do anything about it and so is everybody else who gets worked up over this mess in the middle east.
It's not that I don't care about the suffering going on, but I'm powerless to do anything about it and so is everybody else who gets worked up over this mess in the middle east.
The vast majority of WP members contributing to this topic are neither Jewish, Muslim, live in the region or know people who live in the region. Same is probably true for those defining the term or saying Israel is or is not committing genocide. I don’t see why you should be an exception.
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In the last decade this “woke” idea that only people who have lived experience have a right to comment about that experience. There is merit the idea that those who are a member of a group understand the experiences in ways outsiders can’t. This is not always true. Sometimes people are too close to situations, an outsider without emotional baggage to can see situations more clearly than stakeholder's
I'm against all the woke junk as much as anybody who is sane enough to see how problematic it has become. But my point was that we the outsiders are becoming just as quick to pass judgement over this mess in the middle east due to our own feelings of outrage, which like I've also pointed out is being exploided by the media.
Why should the people who have no control over what goes on over in these war zones keep getting outraged? If the US is indeed an oligarchy like everyone says that means that regardless of which side Americans pick in this stupid war, our opinions, protests, or votes wont matter because in the end the government does exactly whatever they want to do.
And I've come to realize that Americans are incapable of doing the right thing in wars like this onw no matter what they choose to do. The world treats us like we're an evil empire no matter what. Hell if we stayed out of this war between Israel and Gaza I bet we would somehow get blamed for that too.
"Damned when you do and damned when you don't" is pretty much the code we live by.
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CherokeeDeathRose13 wrote:
ASPartOfMe wrote:
CherokeeDeathRose13 wrote:
I guess I can't contribute anything to this debate since I'm neither Jewish nor Muslim then. I'm not in the Middle East to see what is actually going on over there and all I have to go by is propaganda news articles online telling me about what's happening over there.
It's not that I don't care about the suffering going on, but I'm powerless to do anything about it and so is everybody else who gets worked up over this mess in the middle east.
It's not that I don't care about the suffering going on, but I'm powerless to do anything about it and so is everybody else who gets worked up over this mess in the middle east.
The vast majority of WP members contributing to this topic are neither Jewish, Muslim, live in the region or know people who live in the region. Same is probably true for those defining the term or saying Israel is or is not committing genocide. I don’t see why you should be an exception.
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In the last decade this “woke” idea that only people who have lived experience have a right to comment about that experience. There is merit the idea that those who are a member of a group understand the experiences in ways outsiders can’t. This is not always true. Sometimes people are too close to situations, an outsider without emotional baggage to can see situations more clearly than stakeholder's
I'm against all the woke junk as much as anybody who is sane enough to see how problematic it has become. But my point was that we the outsiders are becoming just as quick to pass judgement over this mess in the middle east due to our own feelings of outrage, which like I've also pointed out is being exploided by the media.
Why should the people who have no control over what goes on over in these war zones keep getting outraged? If the US is indeed an oligarchy like everyone says that means that regardless of which side Americans pick in this stupid war, our opinions, protests, or votes wont matter because in the end the government does exactly whatever they want to do.
And I've come to realize that Americans are incapable of doing the right thing in wars like this onw no matter what they choose to do. The world treats us like we're an evil empire no matter what. Hell if we stayed out of this war between Israel and Gaza I bet we would somehow get blamed for that too.
"Damned when you do and damned when you don't" is pretty much the code we live by.
With Israel, not only Jews, but also Christians and Muslims are stakeholders also as all three religions have ties to modern-day Israel.
Of course, outsiders should be cognizant of that fact when posting .
What we post here 99.999999 percent of the time will not have any effect. But if you are interested in a particular political subject no reason not to converse with others just for the enjoyment and brain stimulation you get from it. If you do decide to become an activist, what you learn here will help.
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