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montjuic
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25 Jul 2005, 8:19 am

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25 Jul 2005, 8:50 am

Civet wrote:
When you can paint realistically that well at that age, there is really nothing more in that vein to work toward. I imagine Picasso became rather bored with it after awhile, and that's probably why he explored other options.



that's exactly right. An artist is always concerned to go forward and there would have been no point in re-hashing what loads of other people had been doing for centuries. Picasso follows pretty much directly on from post-impressionism, particularly Cezanne. Nobody comes from nowhere and what lots of people don't realise is that Picasso was extremely respectful of the tradition: his work is completely informed by the past. He would just take stuff and re-do it as he saw fit: one of his most famous (and most controversial) paintings, Les Demoiselles d'Avignon was effectively a re-make of an Ingres piece from the 18th century of women in a Turkish Bath.

Funny thing this Asperger's isn't it? I used to think I was just interested in Picasso, now I realise it was an 'obsession'!


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25 Jul 2005, 8:58 am

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25 Jul 2005, 10:37 am

AntiEverything wrote:
This individualistic expressionism has also spawned abstract and conceptual art which is the art which is difficult to understand and which can look like a five-year-old scribbled it. This kind of art is very internal, ambiguous or obscure - it requires more thought and analysis than more visually attractive pieces of art. I don't think it's without value, though - who decides how much a creation of art is worth? Who decides what is good art? Perhaps this new kind of art simply requires a maturing of mind in which we perceive things and when we can appreciate it we will find it more inspiring than traditional art.


Kandinsky's view was that art is like music - nobody expects an orchestral work to be 'about' anything or to portray aspects of the world in a representational way, it just is and we respond to it emotionally, intellectually or whatever. He saw painting in exactly the same way: colours and shapes and the way they were chosen and combined was what art was about. Fair point in my view. Notwithstanding my Picasso thing I've pretty much favoured abstract art over the years. I find meaning and representation very claustrophobic in a painting.


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