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26 Oct 2007, 1:00 am

fancy talk. get your ass dirty! thats how we hold it. its almost as cool as blackmetal&trees



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26 Oct 2007, 1:02 am

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fancy talk. get your ass dirty! thats how we hold it. its almost as cool as blackmetal&trees


Fair dinkum, do you want a blue, mate? Well, keep the sheilas out of it, and she'll be right.


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26 Oct 2007, 1:04 am

son i dont know what you said but you need to go to america one day!



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26 Oct 2007, 1:06 am

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son i dont know what you said but you need to go to america one day!


11 years ago, I did.

And I said: "Alright, are you wanting a fight? Keep the women out of it and it'll be OK."


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26 Oct 2007, 1:09 am

so you encontered a gangster? thats cool you protected the woman like that. i would have run, or not even been with her to begin with :P



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26 Oct 2007, 1:19 am

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so you encontered a gangster? thats cool you protected the woman like that. i would have run, or not even been with her to begin with :P


No, but I have heard gangsta speak from GTA: San Andreas.


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26 Oct 2007, 1:57 am

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Alex is the one to talk to for actual technical stuff. Unfortunately, we had a crash of something called the user table. It deleted 5 accounts. We know of two active users caught up by this: richardbenson and RedMageIngus. The threads they posted in seem to be the ones most affected.


It sounds like a replycount mismatch issue - when the thread's reply count doesn't match the real number of replies. Inserting users with the old userids should be enough to revive the threads (or, adjusting the thread's replycount downwards to match the number of still-available replies.

(Note, I'm not familiar with phpBB, only vB)


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26 Oct 2007, 9:00 am

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There is a bit of a dirty workaround to view these threads. Click on the third to last number in the page listing for a thread. If it shows that error, go to your address bar. You should see something like :
http://www.wrongplanet.net/posts32827-start30.html

The key part in the example is -start30.html What you see will be similar, the number after "start" will be different. Subtract 15 from that number, and put that new number in its place. So, for this example, it would be -start15.html. Try that, and if it doesn't work...wash, rinse, repeat. You should be able to see posts after one or two tries of that.


This was the first thing I tried, and it works fine. You just have to guess at what the highest page count really is, and multiply that by 15, as you've said. This is also an issue in the "what are you listening to" thread. I wonder why the bb software calculates the totals differently, instead of just reducing the total count on both?



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26 Oct 2007, 5:35 pm

Seems fixed? :D <fingers crossed...> Thanks for the background info, Quartermass.

I'm an American, native born and raised. I regularly wear a cowboy hat (black, leather). I watch bull-riding competitions when I catch them on the telly. (As an aside, the guys who wear helmets rather than traditional hats annoy me - and the competitions are almost invariably won by someone wearing a traditional cowboy hat.) I know how to ride a horse. I own and can use a bullwhip with reasonable proficiency. I even go so far as to spontaneously make up songs for which the entirely of the words are variations of "Yippie-Ki-Yay". Hell, I'm listening to "Cadillac" by Johnny Cash right now. And...

The comment about getting a cowboy hat and riding that bull cause a rather large "WTF?" bubble to appear over my head. :? :lol:

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26 Oct 2007, 5:50 pm

Icarus_Falling wrote:
Seems fixed? :D <fingers crossed...> Thanks for the background info, Quartermass.

I'm an American, native born and raised. I regularly wear a cowboy hat (black, leather). I watch bull-riding competitions when I catch them on the telly. (As an aside, the guys who wear helmets rather than traditional hats annoy me - and the competitions are almost invariably won by someone wearing a traditional cowboy hat.) I know how to ride a horse. I own and can use a bullwhip with reasonable proficiency. I even go so far as to spontaneously make up songs for which the entirely of the words are variations of "Yippie-Ki-Yay". Hell, I'm listening to "Cadillac" by Johnny Cash right now. And...

The comment about getting a cowboy hat and riding that bull cause a rather large "WTF?" bubble to appear over my head. :? :lol:

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- Icarus will try wild bronco riding one of these days...


yes i fixed it. it was linked to the disappearing members problem


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26 Oct 2007, 6:22 pm

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yes i fixed it. it was linked to the disappearing members problem

Awesome; thank you, Alex. 8)

Good fortune,

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27 Oct 2007, 5:42 am

[quote="jfberge"]I wonder why the bb software calculates the totals differently, instead of just reducing the total count on both?[/quote]

It's likely something like this:

The thread table keeps quick stats on views & replies, for fast display on the forum page listing the threads - you don't want to do a thread/post table join for that page, you'd kill your database software pretty quick!

The real replies available to the system is from a query linking the post table (for the response text) and the users table (for the username / avatar). If the rows are missing from the users table, then the database can't include the post either (since it's missing the user information needed to display it).

There's no "reducing the total count" involved at all - if you deleted a post the usual way, sure - the post would be removed and the number attached to the thread would be decremented. But since it wasn't "deleted" per se, there was no opportunity for the software to update the thread's information.

Think of it is an issue with an old and invalid cache entry due to unknown changes - that's kinda what happened.



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27 Oct 2007, 7:44 am

That is sort of the issue with denormalised db. I'm for periodically checking the totals every now and then. You could create some smart system just for the most topical thread’s count. There were also issues with the last poster and the topic starter, I seem to remember. Views, etc not really that important anyway.

You can also reduce the overhead on cumbersome tables by dumping the relevant post data in a temporary table, especially with reduced columns aswell as data. The post text is already in a separate table from the post data 1=1, which makes it much easier. It sounds like it wouldn’t work but it can work surprisingly well.

It has been used to improve the speed of fulltext searches.



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27 Oct 2007, 8:01 am

Then again that doesn't solve the problem of missing usernames. If RB was the last user id on a thread in a topic it may have shown the username blank, skipped the topic all together, errored, etc, depending on how it was set up.