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iamnotaparakeet
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28 Oct 2007, 10:40 pm

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Tallest man in medical history was 8 ft 11.1 in

Robert Pershing Wadlow.

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Are these heights unbelievable and why or why not?

People who are that tall have a growth disorder, excesive growth hormone in the pituitary, I believe, as this is a genetic disorder, this condition seems to carry other health problems.


Thyroid actually. their problems are a combination of genetic errors. However, if it were just the excessive growth hormone without the other problems why would this be so difficult to accept?



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28 Oct 2007, 11:32 pm

While I tend to take the bible with a grain of salt, I dont see a problem of a tribe or two with a common mutation for giantism.



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29 Oct 2007, 2:38 pm

Fuzzy wrote:
While I tend to take the bible with a grain of salt, I dont see a problem of a tribe or two with a common mutation for giantism.


Thank you. My point was that, although fiction in rabbinic and Greek literature (e.g. 1st Enoch) paints an impossible picture of giants (circa 450 ft tall), the information from the canonical Bible presents a far more acceptable account (7.5 ft and 9.6 ft of those directly measured and one whose coffin or bed was 13 feet long [and not necessarily his height]), so on this account I say the Bible is far more believable from a medical standpoint (not that I'm a doctor but that a giant of 450 ft tall would have a problem with blood pressure doubling each 32.2 ft going down from the heart.)

Also, Genesis 6 doesn't have to refer to demons but "sons of God" and "daughters of men" could have just been poetic.

Genesis 6:1-4 KJV+
[1] And it came to pass,1961 when3588 men120 began2490 to multiply7231 on5921 the face6440 of the earth,127 and daughters1323 were born3205 unto them,
[2] That the sons1121 of God430 saw7200 (853) the daughters1323 of men120 that3588 they2007 were fair;2896 and they took3947 them wives802 of all4480, 3605 which834 they chose.977
[3] And the LORD3068 said,559 My spirit7307 shall not3808 always5769 strive1777 with man,120 for that he1931 also7945, 1571 is flesh:1320 yet his days3117 shall be1961 a hundred3967 and twenty6242 years.8141
[4] There were1961 giants5303 in the earth776 in those1992 days;3117 and also1571 after310 that,3651 when834 the sons1121 of God430 came in935 unto413 the daughters1323 of men,120 and they bore3205 children to them, the same1992 became mighty men1368 which834 were of old,4480, 5769 men376 of renown.8034

The men were picking whichever women they wanting and, this is just speculation but possible that, they were selectively breeding so that their children would have certain traits the they valued, e.g. height, strength, intelligence, whatever. That is just a guess though. A more straight forward reading would be that the "sons of God" are angels which isn't impossible, we just don't have that happening today.



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29 Oct 2007, 4:26 pm

and why you find the evolution unbelievable to accept (despite all the evidences) while you believe in these tales?



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29 Oct 2007, 4:46 pm

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and why you find the evolution unbelievable to accept (despite all the evidences) while you believe in these tales?

Because it contradicts religious dogma, as simple as that.


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