10 Jan 2008, 6:45 pm
10 Jan 2008, 7:11 pm
10 Jan 2008, 7:13 pm
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Er, how well do you fair at speaking in public?
I wouldn't go to war for oil though, killing thousands of innocent people for no reason. Turn my back on the rest of the world. etc I know Uk joined in, but I was strongly against it. I knew it was wrong, and I was proved right. I may be a bad public speaker, but i'm not the President of the USA, catch my drift!
Who are these innocent people?
I think I read on an Internet news page that over 100,000 civilians died in Iraq as of a couple years ago but my memory or the news source could be wrong.
10 Jan 2008, 7:27 pm
zendell wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Er, how well do you fair at speaking in public?
I wouldn't go to war for oil though, killing thousands of innocent people for no reason. Turn my back on the rest of the world. etc I know Uk joined in, but I was strongly against it. I knew it was wrong, and I was proved right. I may be a bad public speaker, but i'm not the President of the USA, catch my drift!
Who are these innocent people?
I think I read on an Internet news page that over 100,000 civilians died in Iraq as of a couple years ago but my memory or the news source could be wrong.
Yeah, its probably more. And what did they die for?
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10 Jan 2008, 7:38 pm
benjimanbreeg wrote:
zendell wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Er, how well do you fair at speaking in public?
I wouldn't go to war for oil though, killing thousands of innocent people for no reason. Turn my back on the rest of the world. etc I know Uk joined in, but I was strongly against it. I knew it was wrong, and I was proved right. I may be a bad public speaker, but i'm not the President of the USA, catch my drift!
Who are these innocent people?
I think I read on an Internet news page that over 100,000 civilians died in Iraq as of a couple years ago but my memory or the news source could be wrong.
Yeah, its probably more. And what did they die for?
Oil.
10 Jan 2008, 7:39 pm
LeKiwi wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
zendell wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Er, how well do you fair at speaking in public?
I wouldn't go to war for oil though, killing thousands of innocent people for no reason. Turn my back on the rest of the world. etc I know Uk joined in, but I was strongly against it. I knew it was wrong, and I was proved right. I may be a bad public speaker, but i'm not the President of the USA, catch my drift!
Who are these innocent people?
I think I read on an Internet news page that over 100,000 civilians died in Iraq as of a couple years ago but my memory or the news source could be wrong.
Yeah, its probably more. And what did they die for?
Oil.
said it in one!
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10 Jan 2008, 7:57 pm
10 Jan 2008, 11:00 pm
zendell wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Er, how well do you fair at speaking in public?
I wouldn't go to war for oil though, killing thousands of innocent people for no reason. Turn my back on the rest of the world. etc I know Uk joined in, but I was strongly against it. I knew it was wrong, and I was proved right. I may be a bad public speaker, but i'm not the President of the USA, catch my drift!
Who are these innocent people?
I think I read on an Internet news page that over 100,000 civilians died in Iraq as of a couple years ago but my memory or the news source could be wrong.
The Lancet study of October 2006 conservatively estimated the deaths due to the Iraq war as 650,000. It undoubtedly is appreciably more by now, thanks in part to the "surge" and increasing tensions in the northern Kurdish region, which had previously been relatively peaceful. A newer study, released in September 2007 and using a different methodology (but still getting results which validate the Lancet study) estimated over 1.2 MILLION deaths. Consider that Iraq's population in 2006 was estimated at under 27 million, and you'll realize that that's a pretty good chunk of their people we've murdered.
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11 Jan 2008, 1:59 am
Orwell wrote:
The Lancet study of October 2006 conservatively estimated the deaths due to the Iraq war as 650,000. It undoubtedly is appreciably more by now, thanks in part to the "surge" and increasing tensions in the northern Kurdish region, which had previously been relatively peaceful. A newer study, released in September 2007 and using a different methodology (but still getting results which validate the Lancet study) estimated over 1.2 MILLION deaths.
The Lancet study has been roundly and rightly ridiculed by anyone with knowledge of statistics. Of course it's sheer coincidence that the Lancet releases these 'studies' just before US congressional elections (and the previous study just days before the US presidential election).
Several informative links (should you care...):
http://www.slate.com/id/2154203
http://www.slate.com/id/2151926/
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial ... =110009108
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11 Jan 2008, 8:24 am
11 Jan 2008, 2:41 pm
Orwell wrote:
zendell wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Er, how well do you fair at speaking in public?
I wouldn't go to war for oil though, killing thousands of innocent people for no reason. Turn my back on the rest of the world. etc I know Uk joined in, but I was strongly against it. I knew it was wrong, and I was proved right. I may be a bad public speaker, but i'm not the President of the USA, catch my drift!
Who are these innocent people?
I think I read on an Internet news page that over 100,000 civilians died in Iraq as of a couple years ago but my memory or the news source could be wrong.
The Lancet study of October 2006 conservatively estimated the deaths due to the Iraq war as 650,000. It undoubtedly is appreciably more by now, thanks in part to the "surge" and increasing tensions in the northern Kurdish region, which had previously been relatively peaceful. A newer study, released in September 2007 and using a different methodology (but still getting results which validate the Lancet study) estimated over 1.2 MILLION deaths. Consider that Iraq's population in 2006 was estimated at under 27 million, and you'll realize that that's a pretty good chunk of their people we've murdered.
Wow. If 1.2 million deaths is right then I think Bush murdered more innocent people than Hitler. Do you think Bush should be tried for war crimes and executed for genocide? It seems like Bush made the US the largest worldwide sponsor of terrorism.
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11 Jan 2008, 3:11 pm
zendell wrote:
Orwell wrote:
zendell wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Er, how well do you fair at speaking in public?
I wouldn't go to war for oil though, killing thousands of innocent people for no reason. Turn my back on the rest of the world. etc I know Uk joined in, but I was strongly against it. I knew it was wrong, and I was proved right. I may be a bad public speaker, but i'm not the President of the USA, catch my drift!
Who are these innocent people?
I think I read on an Internet news page that over 100,000 civilians died in Iraq as of a couple years ago but my memory or the news source could be wrong.
The Lancet study of October 2006 conservatively estimated the deaths due to the Iraq war as 650,000. It undoubtedly is appreciably more by now, thanks in part to the "surge" and increasing tensions in the northern Kurdish region, which had previously been relatively peaceful. A newer study, released in September 2007 and using a different methodology (but still getting results which validate the Lancet study) estimated over 1.2 MILLION deaths. Consider that Iraq's population in 2006 was estimated at under 27 million, and you'll realize that that's a pretty good chunk of their people we've murdered.
Wow. If 1.2 million deaths is right then I think Bush murdered more innocent people than Hitler. Do you think Bush should be tried for war crimes and executed for genocide? It seems like Bush made the US the largest worldwide sponsor of terrorism.
6 Million Jews alone were slaughtered by Hitler; also in the past century over 100 million Christians have been put to death by communists alone. (Both in revolutions and standing governments.)
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11 Jan 2008, 3:17 pm
zendell wrote:
Orwell wrote:
zendell wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
benjimanbreeg wrote:
iamnotaparakeet wrote:
Er, how well do you fair at speaking in public?
I wouldn't go to war for oil though, killing thousands of innocent people for no reason. Turn my back on the rest of the world. etc I know Uk joined in, but I was strongly against it. I knew it was wrong, and I was proved right. I may be a bad public speaker, but i'm not the President of the USA, catch my drift!
Who are these innocent people?
I think I read on an Internet news page that over 100,000 civilians died in Iraq as of a couple years ago but my memory or the news source could be wrong.
The Lancet study of October 2006 conservatively estimated the deaths due to the Iraq war as 650,000. It undoubtedly is appreciably more by now, thanks in part to the "surge" and increasing tensions in the northern Kurdish region, which had previously been relatively peaceful. A newer study, released in September 2007 and using a different methodology (but still getting results which validate the Lancet study) estimated over 1.2 MILLION deaths. Consider that Iraq's population in 2006 was estimated at under 27 million, and you'll realize that that's a pretty good chunk of their people we've murdered.
Wow. If 1.2 million deaths is right then I think Bush murdered more innocent people than Hitler. Do you think Bush should be tried for war crimes and executed for genocide? It seems like Bush made the US the largest worldwide sponsor of terrorism.
Oh please. Take a minute and read just how absurd the Lancet's fictional numbers are. (These links are also 2 posts up).
If you care about the facts, that is.
http://www.slate.com/id/2154203
http://www.slate.com/id/2151926/
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial ... =110009108
11 Jan 2008, 4:18 pm
UncleBeer wrote:
Orwell wrote:
The Lancet study of October 2006 conservatively estimated the deaths due to the Iraq war as 650,000. It undoubtedly is appreciably more by now, thanks in part to the "surge" and increasing tensions in the northern Kurdish region, which had previously been relatively peaceful. A newer study, released in September 2007 and using a different methodology (but still getting results which validate the Lancet study) estimated over 1.2 MILLION deaths.
The Lancet study has been roundly and rightly ridiculed by anyone with knowledge of statistics. Of course it's sheer coincidence that the Lancet releases these 'studies' just before US congressional elections (and the previous study just days before the US presidential election).
Several informative links (should you care...):
http://www.slate.com/id/2154203
http://www.slate.com/id/2151926/
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editorial ... =110009108
Would you like to refute the September 2007 study from ORB, completely independent of the Lancet? It wasn't right before an election, so you can't claim that bias.
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