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17 Jan 2008, 8:04 am

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Iran supplies a huge amount of natural gas to China. The US won't attack Iran because of what China will do to the US if it's gas supply is interrupted.


You can add the Russians into the mix as well. They've been giving support to Iran and may not sit around if it is attacked. In a worst case scenario, I can see WWIII starting if the U.S. invades Iran.


That is correct. We cannot win Iran. Unlike what the media shows, Iran is a force to be reckoned with and it's a shame that we have a bully for a president who goes to attack countries that are weak.



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17 Jan 2008, 9:11 am

catspurr wrote:
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Iran supplies a huge amount of natural gas to China. The US won't attack Iran because of what China will do to the US if it's gas supply is interrupted.


You can add the Russians into the mix as well. They've been giving support to Iran and may not sit around if it is attacked. In a worst case scenario, I can see WWIII starting if the U.S. invades Iran.


That is correct. We cannot win Iran. Unlike what the media shows, Iran is a force to be reckoned with and it's a shame that we have a bully for a president who goes to attack countries that are weak.


I very rarely believe everything I see and hear in the main stream media. There's often way too much bias for it to be factual.


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17 Jan 2008, 11:03 am

Media has become crap ever since deregulations of buyouts happened under Reagan. This prompted mass buyouts and now FCC has allowed cross buyouts of newspapers meaning our good ol' pal Murdoch and gang can now buyout newspapers to further manipulate the masses.



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17 Jan 2008, 12:04 pm

catspurr wrote:
Media has become crap ever since deregulations of buyouts happened under Reagan. This prompted mass buyouts and now FCC has allowed cross buyouts of newspapers meaning our good ol' pal Murdoch and gang can now buyout newspapers to further manipulate the masses.

I'd sooner blame the new breed of "journalists" who'd rather opine than report. The news has become one long editorial instead of a conveyance of the bare facts. Too many news reporters bent on stardom instead of being committed to the truth.



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17 Jan 2008, 12:38 pm

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Media has become crap ever since deregulations of buyouts happened under Reagan. This prompted mass buyouts and now FCC has allowed cross buyouts of newspapers meaning our good ol' pal Murdoch and gang can now buyout newspapers to further manipulate the masses.

I'd sooner blame the new breed of "journalists" who'd rather opine than report. The news has become one long editorial instead of a conveyance of the bare facts. Too many news reporters bent on stardom instead of being committed to the truth.


Who is appointing these reporters though?

I expect there are still plenty of genuine journalists around, its just that independant enquiry isnt greatly rewarded in the industry. You can hear 1st hand how some of them were treated here;

Video: Outfoxed - murdochs war on journalism

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 3434902428



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17 Jan 2008, 1:28 pm

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Media has become crap ever since deregulations of buyouts happened under Reagan. This prompted mass buyouts and now FCC has allowed cross buyouts of newspapers meaning our good ol' pal Murdoch and gang can now buyout newspapers to further manipulate the masses.

I'd sooner blame the new breed of "journalists" who'd rather opine than report. The news has become one long editorial instead of a conveyance of the bare facts. Too many news reporters bent on stardom instead of being committed to the truth.

Who is appointing these reporters though?

Editors and corporate flacks who are "smarter and more compassionate" than you or me, and want to make sure we're aware of that. :roll:



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17 Jan 2008, 1:29 pm

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I read this article in the news today. I think Bush may fabricate a story to get support for attacking Iran. I've read alot of anti-Iran propaganda in the news. Do you think Bush would lie to attack Iran to steal their oil or to stay in office after elections?


Forgive my ignorance, government and elections run differently in Ireland, but someone told me one he can't stay in office again?



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17 Jan 2008, 1:42 pm

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I read this article in the news today. I think Bush may fabricate a story to get support for attacking Iran. I've read alot of anti-Iran propaganda in the news. Do you think Bush would lie to attack Iran to steal their oil or to stay in office after elections?

Forgive my ignorance, government and elections run differently in Ireland, but someone told me one he can't stay in office again?

That's correct: only two terms per president (since the days of FD Roosevelt). OP thinks the 'sky is falling'.



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17 Jan 2008, 2:03 pm

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I read this article in the news today. I think Bush may fabricate a story to get support for attacking Iran. I've read alot of anti-Iran propaganda in the news. Do you think Bush would lie to attack Iran to steal their oil or to stay in office after elections?


Forgive my ignorance, government and elections run differently in Ireland, but someone told me one he can't stay in office again?


Bush's second term ends in January 2009 and he's not allowed to stay in office after that. However, given what Bush has done so far I wouldn't be surprised if he refused to leave and tries to become our dictator and use the army to rule. I'm worried Bush may become the next Hitler.



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17 Jan 2008, 3:59 pm

I hope not. Most of Iran is actually pro-west. They do have the potential to be a major world power if they'd get rid of their backwards government.



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17 Jan 2008, 6:02 pm

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I'm worried Bush may become the next Hitler.

You make yourself ridiculous by invoking Godwin's law. (...not to mention your other bizarre posts re: chelation therapy...)



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17 Jan 2008, 7:53 pm

zendell wrote:
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I read this article in the news today. I think Bush may fabricate a story to get support for attacking Iran. I've read alot of anti-Iran propaganda in the news. Do you think Bush would lie to attack Iran to steal their oil or to stay in office after elections?


Forgive my ignorance, government and elections run differently in Ireland, but someone told me one he can't stay in office again?


Bush's second term ends in January 2009 and he's not allowed to stay in office after that. However, given what Bush has done so far I wouldn't be surprised if he refused to leave and tries to become our dictator and use the army to rule. I'm worried Bush may become the next Hitler.


After 911, Bush wrote the "Patriot Act".
Now, all he has to do, is arange another 911 and he can declare Marshall Law and no more elections, hence, a dictatorship

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Are those symbols of Fascism I see?

Even if Bush doesnt get in, the World Bankers will just put another pupet in place, Just as Blair gave the crown to Brown in UK.

I understand Iran is one of the last few countries the Pharisees dont run the banking system for, now that they run Afganistan and Iraq, and since the G8 summit, Africas economic system.

"Give me control of a nations monetary system and it matters not who makes the laws", (or something). Rothschild



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17 Jan 2008, 9:01 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1M9dA3aS_U[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NkhsNqOE08[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtrRKn0prtU[/youtube]



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17 Jan 2008, 9:09 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1FvholZd3c[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3y9xxoPrv_M[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UbeVZ9rKjI[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpKrOx3ThX0[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA3kmjUTOeM[/youtube]



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17 Jan 2008, 9:12 pm

First two were what Bush said and are directly related to the topic. The other show mentioned in a few parts Iran, but I wanted the whole show here for contextual purposes.



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17 Jan 2008, 9:20 pm

i cant believe you take anything glenn beck sais seriously. dudes a conspiracy nut who thinks the end of the world is nigh, and george bush well.. the guy isnt all to bright son


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