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define machine and power elites. in my book there is little differance to the corporate control freaks and the government control freaks AKA educators, they are just having their own little war for control of the masses and if I read you right, you are on one side of the war as you program your students to wage war over what you consider the machine which in your eyes is the corporate machine, yet are part of the government machine.

critical thinkers sounds cute, but reality is most people are near brain dead and incapable of having a thought of their own.

I'll let you get back to programming your students Bush is evil or whatever your deal is because there is litle chance an objective veiw of his presidency is happening in your mind because you come across as a flag waving Killary follower who is leading a pack of mindless pro government welfare/nanny state androids same as Bush leads the welfare street swindlers of the corporate criminal world. Government criminals, corporate criminals, not much difference just two gangs of thugs fighting for control of the people threw different economic means. Both are stealing from the working class and somebody with their hand in everyones wallet is far from an objective on looker while feeding off the suffering of the working class.

it took me paragraphs to say the samething

Yep, especially his work on governmentality (the knowledge-power dialectic).

Unfortunately, the problem is that you are reading me through the eye of your own preconceptions. I don't recall, for instance, ever saying anything about political correctness.

If you want to know what someone believes, the best approach is to ask.

I was responding to someone else's use of "machine." It was not my term.

"Power elites" refer to persons occupying statuses which have substantially more power and influence than the average person, especially capitalists and industrialists.



That is simply an assertion, not an argument. I cannot respond to assertions other than saying I agree or disagree, which leads to circular discussions.



That is the fallacy of prejudice, not an argument. The rest of your posting is based on your own presumptions, not on anything I said.

That is all anyone can do when somebody don't know somebody.



sounds to me like question them, but don't dare question us, AKA the governnment types which you are one of even if the institution you are employed at is labeled a private college, it's far from that considering all the tax benefits aimed at education and government subsidies.

A university is nothing more than boot camp for industrialists and government hoodlums, you can pretend it's some noble place of higher learning if it gives you a warm & fuzzy feeling, but reality is people are there to learn how to get in on the action of exploiting the working stiffs so they don't have to do physical labor themselves.

I sold a house last year and to be nice told the woman don't buy a wide snow blower, they don't fit out the back door of the garage, she looked at me like i was nuts, like her do physical labor, that is what the little people are for and it was an insult to her to even suggest she had to do her own work after attending college so she could sit on her fat butt and pretend to work for a living.

Killary is nothing more than somebody who has no intention of working for a living, just another professional swindler looking to exploit the working class so she don't have to work and can be waited on hand and foot her whole life. She has a backing of like minded people who also have no intention of working a day in their lives, they are either so called employed by the government or out right welfare slugs.

It's entertaining living in vermont,all the productive people are leaving and the mooches are all sorts of baffled now that their is almost nobody left to tax or exploit. Can hardly find anyone to hire up here to get anything done. People got sick of being exploited and either left or gave up being productive.

It's funny how somebody sucking off the capitalists and industrialists bites the hands that feed him. Don't even make a bit of sense to me when you would have no students if it wasn't for the capitalists and industrialists along with no house or car or much of anything else.

I support her ideas about how she would guide the country. I see her and her ideas as a neccessary fix for the irresponsible and irrational actions of the Bush regime over the last seven years. Torture, kidnapping, illegal wire tapping, and war are part of the legacy Bush will leave behind for others to clean up.

I beg to differ on the book, I'd say 1984 for it. Establishment aims for downtrodden dystopia v_v Look at the similarities when you get the chance.

you suffer from a bad case of Bush Derangement Syndrome



congress including the dems voted to go to war and approved most everything else that happened the last 7 years, the financial mess the country is in was caused by comrade clintoon and the pain reduced by the actions of the Great President George Bush but do to the stupid citizens making a run on real estate, the moron citizens created another mess, George Bush didn't force anyone to lend massive amounts of money to people for mortgages who could never pay them or lend money to some yuppie real estate investor to buy some grossly over valued piece of property.

You are reading into my statement things I never said. In response to your request, I simply provided a definition.



More fallacy of prejudice.

no it's just plain old facts, people are buying their way out of having to do physical labor, nothing more than hey I'll pay you $100,000 if you teach me how to exploit other people so I don't have to work for a living and can afford to hire people to do everything for me.

A fact is a statement with which the majority of reasonably informed persons would agree. However, neither I nor, I suspect, most of the people I interact with on a daily basis would find your statements to be more than a collection of logical fallacies, especially, as I said, the fallacy of prejudice (anti-intellectualism).

Most of our college graduates do not exploit people. They obtain jobs and serve their communities, just like virtually anyone else.

thank god someone's thinking of chelsea

That just takes intervention way too far. The state should only intervene on parenting when kids are being abused, or the parents have proven themselves to be very irresponsible/a danger to their children.
This nanny state business is insane.

I agree that the government should stay out of people's private lives.
If I want to marry another woman or terminate an unwanted pregnancy, it's nobody's business but my own.

I'm a little sick of people who don't have children pontificating on parenting styles and abilities.

They obtain soft high paying white collar jobs and that is the reason they are there. The wage gap is the reason most are in college, they don't want to get screwed in the blue collar labor force. They are there for the money same as the teachers, nothing the least bit noble about the whole education system or people in it, it's just one big fraud and the teachers union supports of political party worse than the republicans when it comes to helping corporate america exploit the working class to make their services more valuable, most teachers are clueless as to what they are part of because they have been brainwashed by the propoganda

Society produces X amount of wealth, the only way a wage gap can widen is if wealth is shifted from one group to another group, so everytime a hourly worker waits on or produces something for a white collar salary worker, the value of their labor is being shifted from them to the white collar worker based on the white collar worker being able to exploit the blue collar worker.
How many illegal mexican professors are working at the university you work for ?

They obtain jobs in fields protected from illegal labor so they can benefit from the exploitation of labor in blue collar jobs.



yeah all those evil capitalists and industrialists are just rolling in the money, Yale University made something like 28% profit on their endowment fund last year and everyones pensions are invested in evil corporate america including state & local pension funds keeping taxes down.

every investor or person in a pension plan and every taxpayer is paying the evil CEO's to find labor to exploit so they can benefit through lower taxes to fund government pensions and benefit with higher pensions themselves or higher pay and lower consumer prices.

your confy life is based on the exploitation of the working class by evil CEO's and everyone with the financial means and brains is running off to college so they aren't on the wrong side of the racket. The two machines work together to exploit blue collar labor



The whole point of college is to prepare people to fit into either corporate america or government/ the suffering industry. Educators do nothing more than suck off the suffering of the working class by saying, hey pay me some money and I'll teach you how to not end up an exploited worker bee.

People in corporate america don't want to look like chumps for paying for a college degree,so won't promote or hire people who didn't pay the price for the fancy work permit ( college degree) to get an office job. My nephew just got robbed for over $100,000 to get a job he could have done when he was 16 years old, but wouldn't even be able to apply for without a college degree.
My sister was real thrilled to know when she was paying to send him to a private high school and his computer class teacher was learning a lot from a few of his students who had just about taken over teaching the rest of the kids along with the guy being paid to teach.

Biff after busting butt to get through some fancy college sure don't want to be sitting in a meeting saying yes sir to some high school drop out who worked his/her way to the top because it would hurt his ego so there is now a paper ceiling which educators are exploiting for all it's worth.

Teaching isn't nothing more than passing along information somebody else developed, a glorified message clerk one up from pulling into a gas station and asking for directions and having the attendent pass along information he/she knows.