what is your virsion of reality?

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here today, gone tomorrow

I don't care, this is just overly-philosophical psycho-babble. People are just taking this crap too damn far. If I see it, I hear it, I smell it, I feel it, it's there. You can't deny empirical evidence. It's stupid.
"Oh, how do I know my hand is in front of my face?" "How do I know it isn't an illusion?" It's f*****g ret*d. We're given the power of observation FOR A REASON.

Like i said, you could pretend that "in your reality, there is no train", and stay on the track and get ran over, or you can say "in reality, there is a train coming", get off the track and live to see another day. But the train doesn't cease to exist just because in your make believe reality, you don't wish it to be there. So there is a price to pay for being a delusional idiot. The train is coming down the track, rather you choose to believe it or not. Your options are either pretend it's not there and get flattened, or get the hell off the track and live to run another day. But the train isn't just gonna "disappear" because "in your reality it doesn't exist".

Even **if**... ** If ** our reality isn't reality on some unearthly, god-like realm of existence that is far beyond our comprehension, then that "higher" realm of existence doesn't effect us here. We are mere human beings. Our "lower" level of reality is more real for us.

People grab at this s**t as a straw man to support their ignorance. If nothing counts as knowledge, nobody or nothing can ever be wrong. The priests who molests children can't be wrong, because there exists nothing to determine what's correct or incorrect. "Nothing is real". This entire New Age psycho-babble philosophy is highly dangerous, and orwellian in nature. People just use it as a straw man to support ignorance and group think, so they can pretend that their conceptual flaws in their so-called "logic" don't exist.

speak for yourself why dont you

Ok then delusional one, then by all means, go stand in front of a moving train, tell yourself "this train isn't real", wait for it to disappear. Let me know what happens (although you can't because you won't be alive to tell me).

stuff exists, and something's happening with it. unless it doesn't, and it isn't, but it doesn't really matter either way.

did i beggin an argument?

Reality always wins in the end... it's called justice.

I still don't like it that all these drop kicks waxing philosophical can utter such absolute nonsense in an intellectual sounding way and think they can get away with it. It's downright sickening.

I have no sympathy for someone who is so far gone that they can state they don't believe in reality in plain terms and still live with themselves. Quite frankly they deserve to think that way if they do. But for the minds out there that simply don't know any better because they have never thought about it before... they're the ones that need to see an argument for rational objective reality and philosophy in general.

you mutilated my thread!! !

Objective reality, things like the heat of the sun and the one's inability to breathe while drowning, the coarseness of burlap, the brightness of a candle-flame, the feel of grass under one's bare feet ... these cannot be denied. If one chooses, however, he can employ intelligence and perverse logic to produce all sort of argument & debate. Mainly for the purposes of entertainment, but sometimes for sinister designs.

Subjective reality is opinion, and constitutes one's inner universe. And then there are the layers of reality which we do not understand. The Ultimate Reality of God can never be fully grasped by human beings. Through a glass darkly, yes indeed!

It's the question that drives us.