Hezbollah leader:'War has started,'/new civil war in Lebanon

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LePetitPrince
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09 May 2008, 11:11 am

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gunmen led by Hezbollah have seized most of the western half of Beirut, driving out supporters of the Western-backed government.

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Burning road blocks have been erected across the city during three days of violence, which was triggered by a government move on Monday to shut down Hezbollah's telecoms network.


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At least 11 people are dead and scores injured, while cars have been torched and property smashed in some of the worst internal strife seen in the Lebanese capital since the 1975-90 civil war.


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The gunmen forced the closure of governing coalition leader Saad Hariri's TV and radio stations and his newspaper. The Lebanese army later took over the buildings to guard them.



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The gunmen detained Sunni government supporters and over-ran Sunni areas of west Beirut. Despite sectarian strains, the conflict is said to remain mostly political.

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The Lebanese army command has warned its unity is at risk if the crisis in the capital drags on.

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Analysts say the key to staving off a descent into civil war may lie in how long the army can stay neutral.



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As residents of west Beirut fled on Friday, the Italian government was reported to be drawing up an evacuation plan for any of its nationals wanting to leave the city.



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But with road blocks all but closing down Lebanon's international airport, many passengers trying to board flights out of the city had to make their way to the terminal building on foot.



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09 May 2008, 12:13 pm

damn. I guess it was alway on the cards. Best wishes LP.

It is near impossible to separate the religion from the politic though.

Do you think the military is strong enough? What is the demographic in the area and in general for the army?

One thing I noticed from the last conflict is a number of Christian have changed allegiance from the last civil war. I suppose that is because they hope for stability, even if that mean some liberties been taken away?



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09 May 2008, 1:35 pm

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Hezbollah takes over west Beirut

A disabled Shia gunman roams in the streets of Beirut on 9 May 2008

Gunmen from the Shia militant group Hezbollah have seized most of western Beirut, driving out supporters of the Western-backed government.



Try to stay safe.






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I live in the most heated district of western beirut , Drink. There's no way to wander the streets.


Dont f***ing call me "Drink", bro.

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Drink, why not?



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09 May 2008, 3:30 pm

Too bad Obama isnt President yet..
He could go over and talk to these guys.
Wheres Jimmy Carter when we need him?


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09 May 2008, 8:49 pm

Sh*t, stay safe LePP. :(

Islamist bastards! :evil:


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10 May 2008, 12:17 am

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Islamist bastards! :evil:


And the Zionist bastards who f****d Lebanon in the summer of 2006 are better :P


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10 May 2008, 10:02 am

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Do you think the military is strong enough? What is the demographic in the area and in general for the army?


One thing I noticed from the last conflict is a number of Christian have changed allegiance from the last civil war. I suppose that is because they hope for stability, even if that mean some liberties been taken away?



Sorry, but you are asking questions that needs pages as answer. Try to wiki Lebanon, Lebanon civil war, Rafic Hariri (the assassination part),Cedar Revolution, March 14 Alliance, March 8 Alliance ,Hezbollah.


I don't think the army is strong enough.



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10 May 2008, 10:22 am

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Raising bachar el assad pic...doh.




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a victory for Assad puppets


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2 hezbollah fighters



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Retardation itself personified



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burning the Future TV - an Anti-Syria media



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10 May 2008, 1:12 pm

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Raising bachar el assad pic...doh.




I find it ironic that they plaster Assad's picture, considering his father destroyed a city that quartered the Muslim Brotherhood.



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11 May 2008, 12:04 am

Somebody needs to torch that pathetic Assad poster. :evil:


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11 May 2008, 1:51 am

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Somebody needs to torch that pathetic Assad poster. :evil:


Well, none of this would EVER happen in Syria. That is what I find ironic about that Bashir poster. :scratch:



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11 May 2008, 12:42 pm

Hezbollah-led forces take revolt to mountains above Beirut

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/05/ ... index.html



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11 May 2008, 5:13 pm

Warsie wrote:
Odin wrote:
Islamist bastards! :evil:


And the Zionist bastards who f**** Lebanon in the summer of 2006 are better :P



i think the statement we're looking to reach is "religious bastards".


religion is the core problem. these un-evolved individuals who still grasp to their mythical deities and cannot express themselves and come to agreements and so they go back to basically cavemen and do it through force and through violence.


ever notice the more unevolved and violent people are, the more they hold onto religion more closely and shout out how great their god is?



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11 May 2008, 9:20 pm

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i think the statement we're looking to reach is "religious bastards".


religion is the core problem. these un-evolved individuals who still grasp to their mythical deities and cannot express themselves and come to agreements and so they go back to basically cavemen and do it through force and through violence.


ever notice the more unevolved and violent people are, the more they hold onto religion more closely and shout out how great their god is?


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Yeah, this guy is just waiting to have you slaughtered.



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11 May 2008, 9:33 pm

oscuria wrote:
skafather84 wrote:
i think the statement we're looking to reach is "religious bastards".


religion is the core problem. these un-evolved individuals who still grasp to their mythical deities and cannot express themselves and come to agreements and so they go back to basically cavemen and do it through force and through violence.


ever notice the more unevolved and violent people are, the more they hold onto religion more closely and shout out how great their god is?


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Yeah, this guy is just waiting to have you slaughtered.


and his boss too

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11 May 2008, 10:02 pm

LPP, I really hope things resolve to the best of their ability. I know its not much but seriously, that's some real bulls--t going on over there and my hopes are with you.