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What are your feelings on abortion?
Never. If you want one, do it in an alley with a hangar. 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
Pro-Life legally, but I never really thought about or am okay with the consequences of making abortion illegal. 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Above, but I am okay with first-term abortion. 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
Pro-Life myself, but Pro-Choice when it comes to laws. 29%  29%  [ 11 ]
Above, but might consider first-term abortion myself. 8%  8%  [ 3 ]
Abortion doesn't bother me at all. 29%  29%  [ 11 ]
I have abortions all the time, what are you guys griping about? 13%  13%  [ 5 ]
No Opinion 8%  8%  [ 3 ]
Other (specify) 5%  5%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 38

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12 Dec 2008, 1:08 am

No.
"Loaded" as in you already have made up your mind and you just wanna see where your decision lies compared to other participants on this forum.

It's ok. Almost every other "poll" is designed the same way.



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12 Dec 2008, 1:09 am

Personally, I voted for "G".
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12 Dec 2008, 1:21 am

Legato wrote:
Orwell wrote:
Your poll options are rather loaded, don'cha think?


Loaded as in many factors to consider? Yes, indeed. Things aren't as black and white as we'd hope.

No, "loaded" as in intended to elicit a response in line with your own preconceived notions.


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12 Dec 2008, 5:12 am

I am pro-life as long as the mother's life is not at risk.



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12 Dec 2008, 2:06 pm

ToadOfSteel wrote:
I wouldn't want women to be making the choice merely because of some inconvenience. If a woman could responsibly make the choice, such as the rape/incest/medical issues, or even for an issue like she wouldn't be able to properly support a child, then by all means she should be allowed. However, so many women would make the choice to abort merely because they think it an inconvenience.

I was reading a lot about abortion again for another thread and I discovered that apparently many women who have abortions tend to already suffer from some degree of pysychological difficulties/mental ill-health etc, whereas better-adapted women ( those with strong sense of self, higher self-esteem, etc etc, aswell as those who believe that they will have enough support, which is another bit of positive thinking), who become unintentionally pregnant tend to choose to have the baby.

In other words it is exactly the most disturbed, the most afraid, the least able in our society, the most alienated, who choose abortion. It is the decision of someone who is frightened, and sees no other way out. Very often they do not even feel that they have a choice; "I simply can't have this baby". Black and white thinking, impossibility thinking, "outsider" thinking too, when it is clear that if a woman believes that she is likely to receive support from family or a partner she is less likely to choose an abortion.

I think it qualifies as a kind of "Self-Defence", " It's the baby or me" sort of attitude. That is how impossible having the baby seems to many women who have an abortion. Including me, 25 years ago.

I am pro-choice, because I think that so long as women find themselves in that position, ( because of several factors ), it would be cruel to outlaw it.

Factors include the coital-imperative, ( hetero-sex is almost always supposed/expected to include penile-vaginal penetration ), the nightmare that parenthood, ( especially single parenthood ), often is in our society, the fact that responsibility for the child is still mainly the mother's, and the fact that some women are prone, because of various mental factors, to sexual exploitation/naiveté aswell as incompetence/ignorance around contraception, etc.

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12 Dec 2008, 5:05 pm

I am strongly pro-choice. However, personally I don't think that at any time in my life I would have aborted a healty baby (assuming that it wasnt the product of rape). I know that when I was younger I would not have been able to cope with a disabled child - I was far too selfish, rigid with my routines and convinced that my life and dreams were too important. However, now I am older (and actually more likely to have a disabled child because of this) I think that if I got pregnant now and found out the child was disabled (unless so severely it was unlikely to survive even birth) I would probably keep it. I really think the choice is up to the potential mother and noone should be coerced into doing something (either way) that they do not want. I do not believe that life is important for its own sake until it becomes self aware. Before that stage, as long as no pain is caused to it or others, then ending the life is not a problem.