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18 Mar 2009, 10:08 am

Exactly why we oughta find some way to keep our local companies from going away >=^( Geesh, this is one of the things i hate with globalisation <.< They can freely move around, and for some reason, individuals can't even move around that freely -.- .



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18 Mar 2009, 10:25 am

Sand wrote:
The basic complaint against inexpensive shops is not that they are cheap but that they do not return good value for expenditure. The idiotic video that indicates people should spend more to prop up the economy is based on the false idea that people have surplus income to spend no matter what.


Understanding the money system is to complicated to be hundred percent sure, but this Paradox Of Thrift was one of those ideas that popped into my head some time ago, i didn't know that the idea had a name until now. And this guy in video supports it also.

I will need to have a better understanding before I am willing to make up my mind.



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18 Mar 2009, 10:32 am

Give employers a good wage. Higher minimum wage? (^_^)



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18 Mar 2009, 10:33 am

Give employers a good wage. Higher minimum wage? (^_^)



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18 Mar 2009, 10:33 am

Give employers a good wage. Higher minimum wage? (^_^)



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18 Mar 2009, 12:58 pm

TallyMan wrote:
Sand wrote:
By shipping jobs overseas to gain cheap labor industry has destroyed the market for the
goods, whatever their cost.


That is so true. I've watched manufacturing industries in the UK slide into oblivion over the last few decades as they outsourced more and more aspects of the manufacturing process overseas in an attempt to combat cheap imports. If the identical product is available for half the price produced in a sweat shop in India or elsewhere then people will buy it rather than the same product made in the UK at a fair wage.


It is quite remarkable that the UK-manufacturing industry does not value research very much. I would trace this problem back to the 1950-1990: Vast parts of the manufacturing industry were taken after the war into state control and therefore not subject to the real competition. When Thatcher opened all markets, because it was just not affordable ("Winter of Discontent") this industry died.

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The argument always used to be that the UK has a strong service industry and that is where the money will be. This too has been outsourced. I've been in the computer software industry for thirty years and outsourcing has virtually killed this as a profession in the UK. Nobody want to study computing at university any more because there are either no jobs or they will be competing on salary with someone in India on a dollar a day.

The Western European and American economies are killing themselves with all the cheap imports and outsourcing of services abroad.


The western economies can survive, even prosper, but only by supplying goods and services one else can supply. This means in the first place education, especially in the scientific and engineering area: Attracting bright students into vocational education, by beefing this education academically up. E.g.: On a vacation school engineering mathematics should be much more advanced than on a normal school, because mathematics plays for engineering a more important role.