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29 Aug 2020, 11:26 am

What about that Disney film Song of the South?


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29 Aug 2020, 11:36 am

UncannyDanny wrote:
What about that Disney film Song of the South?


I never saw it. :P

I heard it was very racist too though.


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29 Aug 2020, 4:01 pm

^Alright, then how about To Kill A Mockingbird?


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29 Aug 2020, 4:28 pm

Well some people nowadays might say that To Kill A Mockingbird is racist, because it is a "white savior story" as the expression goes, but would it actually be better if Atticus Finch was black?



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29 Aug 2020, 4:53 pm

To Kill A Mockingbird is an awesome book and is not racist. Don't you people dare try to tarnish it. :evil:


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29 Aug 2020, 5:56 pm

I feel compelled to link this.


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29 Aug 2020, 6:06 pm

First of all Atticus was not a "white savior", especially when you consider the fact that he did not actually SAVE Tom from being killed despite his trying. He was simply a lawyer with a conscience who happened to be white.

I'm not a fan of white messiah stories myself, but To Kill A Mockingbird painted a very realistic depiction of racial injustice in the south during the 1930's. Atticus and his children merely served as a reminder that not every white person in the south is a racist bigot. And even some of the characters who were racist in this story were shown to be flawed human beings capable of redemption. After all racism is a learned behavior, it's not like people are born racist.

I know it's hard for these far-left radical liberals to accept the fact that some white people in this world, in this country, and ESPECIALLY in the south may not all actually be racist "white devils" and that we are all flawed human beings.

To Kill A Mockingbird should not even be compared to Gone With the Wind and I find that highly insulting.


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29 Aug 2020, 6:20 pm

And another thing, I don't appreciate the PC Police trying to ruin great classics that were intended to have positive messages about racial tolerance. Like when Hulu censored The Golden Girls episode "Mixed Blessings". That's complete f*****g BS. :roll:


Gone With the Wind is different because that movie was obviously racist and made no attempt to hide it. To Kill A Mockingbird was written to try and change our country's attitudes towards African Americans and should be appreciated for that.


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29 Aug 2020, 6:25 pm

DeathEmperor413 wrote:
I know it's hard for these far-left radical liberals to accept the fact that some white people in this world, in this country, and ESPECIALLY in the south may not all actually be racist "white devils" and that we are all flawed human beings.


Do you actually think that people on the "far-left" think that all white people are racist? That kind of feels like some sort of projection.

I am pretty far-left, and it kind of boggles my mind when someone puts forward some analysis by looking at something critical on a particular subject, which then has them accused of calling all white people racist.

I have read the book To Kill a Mockingbird, only parts of the movie, I remember watching the start in The Darkness video game. I think that the book is find, read it during some of my formative years, and especially think it is useful taken from the point of view of the main character Scout. But I have also seen since that some people see the movie as being a bit of a white savior story, where the white man has all the agency while no one black does. I don't get to decide how people might feel if it is that way.


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29 Aug 2020, 6:32 pm

DeathEmperor413 wrote:
And another thing, I don't appreciate the PC Police trying to ruin great classics that were intended to have positive messages about racial tolerance. Like when Hulu censored The Golden Girls episode "Mixed Blessings". That's complete f*****g BS. :roll:


You don't think that a classics written to have positive messages might have some sh***y elements that should be reexamined? A movie or story can have good intentions, but in doing so created other kinds of stereotypes that might be bad, or the whole thing could be a lot of virtue signaling that does not age well.

I looked up the Golden girls episode to see what might be seen as a problem, and I am quickly met by what seems to be two of the women with black face.


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29 Aug 2020, 6:52 pm

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You don't think that a classics written to have positive messages might have some sh***y elements that should be reexamined?


Nope I don't, because I am against censoring reality for the sake of living in a fake world where we pretend that these "sh***y elements" don't exist. Ignoring problems doesn't make them go away.

As for The Golden Girls, the ladies were not wearing blackface, they were wearing mud masks which is a beauty treatment old ladies often do. So I guess now we never again can allow old ladies to wear mud masks on TV because it sorta looks like blackface. :roll:

Personally I'd rather they actually did something real for racial justice like stopping the cops who go around murdering black people and getting away with it then trying to censor old TV shows and movies. The sooner Democrats and Leftists see this as the redundant distraction from real racial injustice never to be resolved that it really is the happier centrists like me who have not lost their minds to the Trump Cult or Far Left Agenda will be.


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29 Aug 2020, 7:51 pm

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Personally I'd rather they actually did something real for racial justice like stopping the cops who go around murdering black people and getting away with it then trying to censor old TV shows and movies. The sooner Democrats and Leftists see this as the redundant distraction from real racial injustice never to be resolved that it really is the happier centrists like me who have not lost their minds to the Trump Cult or Far Left Agenda will be.


So, because some on the "far-left" are concerned over small things like normalization of certain racist things in culture through things like movies, you think that they are not also focusing on more pressing matters like police brutality? I am no expert, but do you think that some good can be achieved by focusing on a lot of smaller issues that can impact people by removing normalization of racism, rather than putting all eggs in a single issue that?

How is censoring reality, because Hulu does not want to have an episode of Golden Girls that is making a clear reference to blackface? Do you have evidence that leftwing activists went after Hulu because they want to pretend that never happened?

Centrism does not mean enlightened. Centrists can often be happy with just symbolic changes, being happy with thinking that they are at least not the worst on a subject, and rather pretend that nothing they like might be political, because anything on any side of an issue is political. Martin Luther King Jr's complaint of the greatest stumbling block for freedom was the "White Moderate" was specifically about centrists who only pay attention to the worst examples and are not invested on more thorough changes.


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29 Aug 2020, 8:58 pm

Now you are calling ME a racist? That's f*****g rich. I want this stupid topic locked now for getting too political please.


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29 Aug 2020, 9:24 pm

UncannyDanny wrote:
What about that Disney film Song of the South?


Saw the movie back in the 1970s. It never crossed my mind it was ever racist.



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29 Aug 2020, 10:35 pm

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Now you are calling ME a racist? That's f*****g rich. I want this stupid topic locked now for getting too political please.


What! No! Where did I say you were racist?

And they say that people far on the Left are too sensitive.


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29 Aug 2020, 10:42 pm

Whatever, I'm still reporting my thread and requesting that it get locked. You people have ruined it. Thank you and have a nice life. :bounce:


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