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heh, i agree

There is nothing wrong with being a conservative, but the extreme of either is unacceptable. The Extreme Republican, would basically be a Nazi, and the Extreme Democrat, would basically be a Communist. So therefore, most of our polticians are moderate with some traits that cross to the other party. I would hate for either extreme to win out, that would be very bad. Neither extreme really works anyway. The Nazis, are economically effecient but dont care about people. The Communists care about people, but have a lot of trouble sustaining an economically viable status. And China does this by mostly allowing some limited freedoms. And both systems are run essentially by small parties and dictators.

Speaking of supporting evicendence i saw a documentary about Iraq, called "Stealing the Fire" about Iraq's so-called non-existant nuclear program. Among the witnesses was a man name Khidir Hamza, whose position in Iraq was as a director of its Nuclear Bomb Project. They should not even have had one, let alone a man in that position. He said he flew to Germany to talk trade for German Nuclear technology and supplies from Degussa and several other German companies. A spy, named Karl Schaab, was convicted of selling atomic secrets to Iraqi agents.

http://www.stealingthefirefilm.com/

Although id hardly present any film of this sort as all fact and no drama (and i include Micahel Moore in this like when he was filming Iraq he was making it out to be disneyworld before the Yanks invaded) but i know that Saddam was trying to procure nuclear in the eighties though the US and Donald Rumsfield were selling him wmd and more convientional weapons to reinforce Saddam's status as an evil dictator, far from taking action on Iraq at the time despite the slaughter that his regime had commited.

As Iraq was the Arabs most advanced army (10th in the world) and one of the more advanced countries in the region at the time they were succeding until Israeli intervention. What has all this got to do with the recent gulf war and the invasion of the country that was under constant surveilance a shadow of it's former glory and didnt have a half-decent infrastructure or military to it's name never mind the capacity to build a serious nuclear arsenal?

In Europe the majority of us consider the US right now to be extremely conservative in most of it's policies though obviously it's up to your own people to decide what regime you vote in. I wouldnt like to describe myself as conservative or liberal as i have my own views on different particular issues.

Then you must have forgotten WWII. Nazi Germany is not the same as the U.S. today. And if you blame all our problems on conservatives, i have seen just as much if not more fingerpointing at liberals. Whats does pointing the blame accomplish? One party fixes some problems and creates new ones that perhaps the other party reverses. I read that some blame the Clinton administrations increased use of coal for our air polution, though not always, if that is so, how does that so called environmental ism help? Not all so called environmental solutions from either party are neither practical nor logical.

Well i think we have some countries here that balance capatilism and social alltruism. Things arent perfect and we pay higher taxes but most of us are happy to do this for the benefit of mankind and the planet. I think the US is extremely capatilistic and right-wing at the moment but that's all a matter of opinion on what you think the right balance is.

How would i have forgotten about ww2? When did i say that the US is literally as bad as Hitler's Germany in ww2? Did you just think up of a nice sound-bite there and add it in for dramatic effect? Are you continuing to argue with yourself?

Im not German. My grandad fought in ww2 against the nazis years before the US's hand was forced by Japan and entered the war late again. All this has nothing to do with my point, even if i was German most countries have a history and that has nothing to do with my point that the US is too conservative in the opinion of most Europeans i speak to. Stay on topic will you please.

I am on topic. In an earlier post, others mentioned party extremes, i then posted just before your post from which i had responded to asking if you think the U.S. is like the Nazis, i had said: the extreme conservative is Nazism. Then you said, the U.S. was extreme conservatives. So, thus i based my reaction, on the chain of the conversation, of which, i perhaps, mistakenly, thought you were participating in and reading all of them in order.

Well obviously i meant i we find it a bit extreme for a democratic western government in this day and age. I dont mean to seriously compare it to the most extreme governments ever when it comes to outright warfare. As far as i know they have no plans of creating a master race by wiping out jews, romany gypsies or disabled people.

Anyway, you posted and i quote "extreme republican would basically be a nazi", but my post said "extremely conservative in most of it's policies" (most of it's policies makes it obvious that i was reffering to the US and how Europe sees it today, not during any point in history) but that was what you yourself said, nothing to do with me so your post was'nt arguing with what i said and so wasnt relevant to anything i posted.

Extremem conservatism and republican is the same thing. And i was not refering to history. Please desist from insisting what I say as so irrelevant, even when i make a point in reponse to your posts. If you can not tolerate or withstand a different oppinion then why are you on the boards at all?

Post your point of view by all means but dont post replies to me insinuating i am wrong when your reply is not relevant to anything i have said.

Republican/Republicanism- favouring a Republic as the best form of government
Conservatism- favouring traditional views and values.

We have a conservative party in the UK who are totally against us becoming any form of republic. If you are trying to say the Republican party of the US is conservative in most of it's views then you have came close to getting something right but your reply to my post was still silly as i never said that the US government is the most extreme of all time for any country so why would i have forgotten the nazis?

If you arent able to have a normal debate without bringing up irrelevant points then you shouldnt be on a forum for debate. If you want to argue with yourself and confront your lack of knowledge then you dont need to log on for that.

Are you refering to me or yourself? Seems more likely yourself. Here in the U.S. conservative and republican is the same. When you said what you said, it was strongly implied that was what you meant, especially as it came right after i made that comment about nazis. You are the one that has a problem with a civilized debate. I sense far more contempt in your wording than in any of mine.

My post about the US being too conservative was not to do with your one about extreme republicanism being like the nazis, if it was i would have quoted you. I know us aspies are egocentric but come on, you are not everybody. I am connected to the internet, how could i possibly forget about the nazis when people (mostly trolls) bring them up all the time?

Oh you meant in the US Republican means conservative? Why didnt you say so? This is an international forum so you should use either the literal definitions of words or a general world-wide use of english when you are speaking to an international community or a particular member who happens to be not from the US.

For that error, I humbly appologize, I was so used to hearing it everywhere and on all news channels, that I supposed that everyone must have heard it thusly.

I am a proud democrat. Or liberal, as some like to call it.

I know the Republican party of the US are conservative but when i said "too extremely conservative". I didnt mean to equate them with hitler or anything or i would have tried to make the point clearer. I think it was just a case of crossed wires. Apology humbly accepted.

How capatilistic or conservative your nation is, is up to your voters. In the opinion of most of Europe the US is too right-wing but then that is all a matter of opinion and im more concerned with keeping voting against the conservative party here in Britain.