Church is the main source of my misery

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Sure! And I agree with what you say about religion and wars, etc.

By faith based principles, I mean treating others as you would like to have yourself treated...being kind and considerate to others. Philosophies put forth by Christ, Krishna, Buddah, etc. Those who actually took time to think of what it would take to make the world a better place. It's not religion, it's doing right by other people that the aforementioned folks espoused (ie, "the greatest of these is love"). But, because all of these guys are central characters to various "religions", their teachings I would lump into being considered "faith based".

By the way I don't mean to neglet Mohammed, but I am especially ignorant of Islamic teachings.

Isn't a religion some person or group of persons telling other people what they think a higher power wants from them? We have it built within us the ability to conect with the higher power or collective conciousness without anybody's help, but it's sometimes hard to do, so many of us seek spitual guidance from "religious" teachings.

Spirituallity is inherent---religion is a means of exploring spirituallity.

As an aspie, it may be even more difficult, because empathy is part of the mechanism by which such connections are made.

These are merely my thoughts and not something I am trying to put forth as fact, beyond what we know historically.

If no-one objects, I think this belongs in the PPR forum.

oatwillie

ok I see what you are trying to say now. . .thanks

I second, duncvis

I'm Christian, and oddly enough, I'm not friends with people my age at church. I'm 16, and talk with middle school girls most of the time on Wednesdays. On Sunday, I normally just talk to as few people as possible (mornings..blah!). I did go to the Catholic church once. *nods off while remembering* It was boring. My current church asks for money at the end of the service, and suggests only memebers donate. They force nothing, only suggest, and only suggest once. I've wanted to leave for a while now, but I have a frined or two.

As for the sermons, some of them are very detailed and interesting. For the youth in Sunaday school and Wednesdays, it's stuff I've heard one time too many. But Sunday mornings are always a bit interesting.

The only problem I have with the Christian religion is the large number of hypocrites. Hypocrites are a HUGE pet peeve of mine. I can't stand them, yet they're everywhere.

I was raised in the post-Vatican II Roman Catholic Church. One interesting thing about my hometown is that there are different kinds of Catholics (Roman, Maronite, Ukrainian) and Orthodox (Greek, Russian, Syrian). I started visiting parishes and found that I enjoyed going to a Tridentine Mass every once in a while. My wife and I belong to a "regular" Roman Catholic parish and enjoy it very much.

If you feel the seed of something spiritual inside, try to find where you feel most comfortable. For me, it was in the Catholic Church (see avatar). I have Jewish friends who are quite happy in their faith, and one of them is a convert from a family of nominal Christians.

As far as church being not AS-friendly, I think it depends on the particular worship style and such. I have been to Masses which drove me out of mind from boredom or noise or just plain ugliness. My parish avoids those problems for the most part, so I feel comfortable there. The Tridentine Mass might be pretty good for Catholic aspies; it's very quiet, you do not have to speak at all, and most attendees are nonconformist by their very participation.

SELF-INDULGENT STORY ALERT: When I was a teenager, my family lived in a housing project, but I had a full scholarship to a prep school, where I continued my study of classical languages. One day, two members of a religious group came to the door and asked if I wanted to learn about the Bible. I excused myself and fetched my copies of the Greek New Testament and the Vulgate Latin translation. The evangelists' faces looked something like this: It was a very short meeting.

I am Roman Catholic. I find Catholicism to be very satisfying and meaningful. I go to Mass every Sunday (or Saturday evening), and an occasional weekday morning. I was not raised Catholic; I converted from evangelical protestantism when I was a senior in high school. I have to say my faith is the most meaningful and important part of my life.

Cindy:

Catholic aspies from PA! There's a group for us!

religion is AS Freindly. christianty is bout a relionship with God. church is a there to encorrge and sethen u in ur relionship with God. i am shocked to hear that the type of u discribed are christians. the way i see this is that they are being forced to go and don't beive it cos if they do they have a funny way of showing it.
God Bless.

Cindy:

Scranton Diocese; we live in Mountain Top, between Wilkes-Barre and Hazelton. Our parish is in White Haven.

Do you know if the bishop's throne in Allentown is still the one they used to call "the electric chair" due to the rays coming out of it?

I grew up in Wilkes-Barre, so that's where I got my exposure to various churches.