"AS men have it harder"--does this bother you?

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That makes sense. I've never been in North America and have a really hard time believing most women there are shallow b*****s and gold diggers as they are often described here

Your post made me wonder if the men who post such nonsense would actually be interested in an independent, intelligent woman or really want a relationship with one. Apart from that, their close minded, venomous attitude will probably repel any sane person regardless of gender.

The issue here is whether men with AS have it harder and the answer is undeniably yes. For a woman to say that just because she has a period and can get pregnant that this qualifies her as having it harder is foolishness. While I don't dispute that those things are a real drag, they don't compare with all the crap that guys with AS go through.

While girls with AS may get get cast out of the "in" crowd at school, the boys with AS get beat up and bullied on a constant basis. So where do girls get off thinking that the fact that they aren't allowed to sit with the cool girls at lunch is somehow harder than an aspie male with bruises and broken bones?

A girl, even those with AS, get hit on by guys all the time. They get to pick and choose who they want to go out with. A guy has to hit on numerous girls, facing rejection most of the time, sometimes cruelly, and go out with whoever says yes whether he really likes her or not.

Guys feel that they are expected to get into a relationship. Without achieving that, many feel that they have failed at gaining their manhood. Many AS guys have an especially hard time getting into relationships and the failure can lead to depression and worse. Girls with AS aren't that concerned about romance because they know all they have to do is say yes to the next guy that hits on them. The proof is on the aspieaffection.com home page: 1869 males looking, only 538 female looking.

In the ladies room at work, there are FREE tampon dispensers. In the mens room in bars there are condom vending machines that guys have to pay for.

If a man and woman have sex, the woman can claim after the fact that she said "no" which makes it a rape. Guys aren't allowed to say "no" so its extremely rare for a woman to be convicted of raping a man.

Several years back there was this cocky teen boy walking the beach with 6 teen girls. Granted, he was being a jerk and bragging about his manhood and saying idiot things. The girls finally had enough and attacked him. They pulled his suit down, knocked him down, sat on his face and held him down while they took turns fondling and jerking him off. It was undeniably a rape. Yet it was dismissed as girls just having fun. No charges were ever filed and the boy was totally demoralized by the event. Yet if 6 boys did that to a girl, everyone would be screaming rape and demanding jail for the evil boys that would do something like that. So how could anybody look at that and say that guys don't have it harder. (In this example, all parties were believed to be NT not AS.)

If a man and woman have sex, the woman gets pregnant, she alone gets to decide whether she will have an abortion or not - because the man didn't have anything to do with it.

If after said sex and the woman has the baby, even over the man's objections, he is obligated to pay for child support - because making her pregnant was all his doing and she had nothing to do with it.

If the baby was the result of a man being raped, he STILL has to pay child support to the rapist.

And the list goes on and on.

Good luck doing some kind of objective study as to which sex has it harder.

Personal accounts are pretty much all we have on here.

One thing I remember from the AS group I was going to was that a few men had girlfriends. Almost all the females seemed to have boyfriends though, or romantic prospects. I was thinking about it this morning, and i realised why this was.

100% of these women were dating.... ASD men. There were just loads more men in the group than women. I think many aspie females find themselves naturally drawn to AS men, whether they realise it at the time or not. Unfortunately for AS men the numbers are not in their favour here... there are more AS men for AS women to choose from, than AS women for AS men to choose from.

But on the other hand, NT women, I feel sorry for them. They certainly dont have the numbers in their favour... especially big cities which are often crawling with single women. Also, the older you get the less likely NT men will go for NT women. When I was hanging out with NT women a few years ago, half them were on Paxil or Effexor because they had had their hearts broken so many times.

I do find it quite annoying that people seem to think men are having a harder time. You can't measure that in any way, not with surveys or anything. Everyone is unique, and everyone has different lives. Sure you can put up an aspie woman and an aspie man next to eachother, and point out where they are struggleing, but you just cant say "well this is surely worse than that" and then call it some scientific result, because it roots down to what you think is more horrible. Atleast thats how I think, it might not be correct if you break it down into pieces but thats how I think. And in the same way there is no way you can generally assume that women are having a harder time than men. Its no contest this, its a diagnose and as I see it, its hard to learn to live with, no matter in what degree you are affected by it.

There are a lot of self righteous ignorant posters in here who have no clue what they are talking about. You see a lot of women using shaming language rather then hard numbers.

Numbers don't lie. It is not all relative. Someone who is burned alive suffers more then someone who isn't. Anyone who disputes this is simply incapable of thinking rationally.

Women cannot relate to the suffering of AS men because they've never had to live as a man, this is the whole issue in the end.

It is not a contest, we were speaking in terms of numbers. Generally speaking, more often then not AS men suffer more then AS women. This does not mean all AS women do not suffer equally as much as AS men, but the odds are in the favor of women when it comes to life outcomes.

Generally speaking males have it much more difficult since women are such self-righteous egotists, just look at how women in this thread argue - notice the self-righteousness and haughtness but emotional relativism but no talk of numbers or frequency of relationships, and their length and their impact on health over a period of time.

It is well known males have it more difficult then AS females, since males get diagnosed more often BECAUSE their lives are at some kind of breaking point. The numbers of AS females being diagnosed would go up if they were having the same kind of life altering problems, period. The fact that more AS girls are not diagnosed means their lives are less effected, period.

It's a mathematical certainty that this is the case.

Where are these numbers and mathematics to prove this? Other than some half-assed forum poll, that is.
Speaking of being self rightous, you're doing pretty well with that. I think the men in this thread that are posting about how they have suffered more than women don't know too many women. If they did and actually listened, maybe they'd realize women suffer greatly too.

I personally have been abused, bullied, harassed, rejected, and humiliated. Half of that just from my own family. But I had the brains to work on myself and not wallow in the "poor me" pool.So, sorry if I just don't feel much pity for some whiner complaining that he can't get laid.

Get off the frigging computer and go hire a damn prostitute if it's that bad. Actually open your damn mouth and say something to the next girls you see, if they reject you, you keep trying again, and again. Don't stand there overthinking every goddamn thing someone says or does, afraid to ask someone out! That crap isn't suffering, it's senseless bitching that's only going to make you more bitter.

The attitudes some of you men have are most likely why you don't have girlfriends. Anyone that exudes that much resentment and hate is going to scare away everyone.