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TallyMan
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23 Aug 2010, 2:14 pm

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As it seems unlikely Alex will create another forum specifically for religious believers would a sticky in somewhere like the Haven or Members called "Religious Faith - Issues and Practice" be the quickest and simplest thing to try?


I think this would get confusing as you'd have people of different faiths trying to get support on the same thread. I think it'd be better if thread creators put something in the subject - "[SUPPORT THREAD]" or something similar to designate that it's not a debate thread. If the majority of active PPR members are relatively small and well known, it seems like they could easily follow different rules and call a truce on these kinds of threads. That's not to say that you'll escape the "thread hijackers" - they persist on all the forums and I don't think you'll find a forum that has enough moderation to stop that.


It would maybe be worth an experiment to try. My guess though is that if such threads were still located in PPR they would be abused. The atmosphere of the Members and Haven forums is different - it is more supportive than confrontational. I can also foresee that some people would create spoof threads in PPR with [SUPPORT THREAD] in the title further diluting its effectiveness as a distinction e.g. [SUPPORT THREAD] Jedi religion... Flying Spaghetti Monster ... Sky Fairy etc or maybe some extreme cults too just to add spice and stir the pot.


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23 Aug 2010, 6:44 pm

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If a topic isn't being presented for serious, PPR style, discussion, maybe the rules of the thread could be put in the first post, maybe by a moderator so that it is taken more seriously, and fits within certain parameters. For instance, if a group of Christian members want to talk about a Bible passage, shouldn't we be able to say, "this thread is for serious study of the passage, and not comments about the inanity of religion or similar sarcasm." By putting that in bold at the start of the thread, it becomes the rule for the thread, and violations can be moved out. (Most likely, one long, "Bible" thread would be better than multiples).

Making a single thread for Christianity, seems a fine idea, it seems that it would be similar to the "Dino Cafe" somehow, and I agree with the rules would be seen better if made by a mod, and explicitly prohibing the debating and mocking of their faith, although debating aspects inside their faith could be done I believe, such as denominations do on their own.

One problem I find though, is that that thread would likely increase the job of a moderator, which would have to be there constantly like a regular in the PPR, to watch over it, and probably to a point that it would be too much, as most likely those rules would be violated. So that is the downside of the idea.


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24 Aug 2010, 4:21 am

I agree with the general sentiment that PPR is not the place for it. An attempt to limit the tone of the forum within particular threads is likely to cause too much work for a volunteer mod.

If there's a need for it, I suggest that Members Only is a better choice than The Haven to expand the scope to include supportive discussions of faith, race and sexuality.


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27 Aug 2010, 10:48 am

Dox47 wrote:
... the statement that disagreeing with someone's worldview is "proselytizing trolling" ...


I have been thinking about that kind of thing for a couple of days, and some of my own experience has come to mind: In certain A.A. meetings I have attended, so-called "crosstalk" is considered "cross talk" and specifically prohibited since it might upset someone to have his or her own view or opinion in any way challenged.

Fortunately for me, there was no such rule back in the '80s when I first got started or I would have been dead fairly soon.

"Some of us have tried to hold on to our old ideas and the result was nil until we let go absolutely." ("A.A.", the book, page 58)


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28 Aug 2010, 6:17 am

Maybe people should post about their own personal beliefs in the 'Getting To Know You' section? You could even have a sticky for it to stop the thread from getting lost.

I don't post in PPR very much, but I've seen that once something gets posted there, it tends to be torn apart as if it were a matter of life or death. If it was just a more relaxed post to let people know more about who you are, it might attract a gentler response.