Kama "massacre" a fraud?
Especially if that building was in the south of Lebanon, intelligence can be screwy sometimes and just the way Hezbollah likes to play things they may have very deliberatly dropped some heavy indicators of their presence there. By all means I'm not saying that's what definitely happened but just some food for thought...
"Intellgence can be screwy sometimes"?
The vast majority of Israel's victims were civilians. Nobody's intelligence is that screwy.
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"Intellgence can be screwy sometimes"?
The vast majority of Israel's victims were civilians. Nobody's intelligence is that screwy.
and the same majority of Hezbollah takes off their nce pressed military uniforms when they aren't doing parades and fight in street/civilian clothes.
"Intellgence can be screwy sometimes"?
The vast majority of Israel's victims were civilians. Nobody's intelligence is that screwy.
and the same majority of Hezbollah takes off their nce pressed military uniforms when they aren't doing parades and fight in street/civilian clothes.
So did the French Resistance in WW2. It's a necessary part of fighting against an occupation, which is what forced the creation of Hezbollah. Israel invaded in 1982, occupied for twenty years, and Hezbollah was the resistance movement.
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Just like them firing rockets at Israel from an Israeli-free and Syrian-free Lebanon a few months ago? Regardless of how you want to look at the history a 'resistance movement' doesn't fire at a country to bring them back in just for the sake of resisting them some more.
Just like them firing rockets at Israel from an Israeli-free and Syrian-free Lebanon a few months ago? Regardless of how you want to look at the history a 'resistance movement' doesn't fire at a country to bring them back in just for the sake of resisting them some more.
Yes, resistance was necessary, because Israel has attacked southern Lebanon and others on and off even after the official withdrawal.
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Nevermind, I took a look around the internet and found at least a few other articles about the same thing - rockets fired (""), Israel retaliating, Hezbollah leaders saying they don't know anything about it. Love that stuff. Then again, if those backing Israel are really under this huge canopy of illusion, misinformation, and propaganda why is it that the UN and many other countries rather than having active or organized and coherant arguements just play indifferent? It seems like it could very much be a he-said-she-said when you count the US news as having some either right-wing agenda or very limited centrist or left wing whereas Al Jazeera and the european news have the opposit slant but it all comes down to seeing what checks out in terms of making sense when you look at the human condition - Israel's a small country surrounded on all sides, although it seems to have a rather effective military barely seems to have the human resource that its neighbors do (technology can make up for some of that but how far I really wonder...), you had soem of the closest peace agreements broken by bombings, Hamas claiming that they aren't out for negotiation - they want the distruction of Israel and nothing else, yeah they're supposedly Suni and Hezbollah are supposedly Shiite but when I look at it they're working toward similar goals but just from different backers in general. Its a part of the world where people are trained to hate jews and westerners, not by well thought-out arguements or discourse but even by 3rd grade math books that have killing jews, heathens, and americans worked into the story problems. For me its really hard to see a country like Israel thats catching suicide bombs and now rockets wanting to go into Lebanon just for s--ts and giggles, it just makes no logical sense, they have nothing to gain unless its them trying to stop some kind of problem. Don't get me wrong, I'm not some kind of neocon, I'm not hard up on the side of the right, the right is just the only side I find making any coherant sense when it comes to this fight. It seems like on one side you have people saying that Israel, whether they're completely failing the morale war or not, are just doing what it seems they have to to keep themselves in the green and keep from letting attacks multiply (because its a part of the world where any show of backing down is weakness and any show of weakness just means attacks multiply). On the other hand you have a side saying that Israel is causing the problems, is the aggressor, talking about battles of the past such as in Beirut (which if I get this right were to stop a similar thing - suicide bombings and such), and it seems to be mostly an arguement about which came first - chicken or egg. You also have people saying that Israel has no right to exist and that these people have every right to be bombing the hell out of Israel because Israel itself is the insurgent - I'm still really confused on that, the Jews never had that land and they just straight up took it over? How is it that Jerusalem ended up in a state that the Jews got back in WWII? All the talks of the Jews originally having a homeland and losing it to the muslims is all lies??
Seriously, I won't sit there and say that I'm the brightest person out there but I go with the closest thing I can find to making sense. If anyone who's on the anti-Israel side wants to say something continuous, contiguous, draw me an illustrative picture, and not just shoot random critiques of whats going on I'd appreciate it because while I see one side of the debate crystal clear I just catch little odd-angled bits and pieces of the other and its not really helpful in seeing where your coming from or the core facts and thoughts that are fueling your ideas are.
