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Dont you just love it when the guy in the box screams 'give me proof' ? Dude ,you cant see anything close to proof until you stop skulking in your little corner and start living .
You'll be telling me next that ww2 never happened and was in fact a figment of my imagination . What am i saying ? you already have. Forgive me.
All we get from you is politically correct double speak , a mask of intelectual superiority and a shotgun approach to marginalsing anyone who's dialogue doesnt gel with your agenda based posting.
There's just no way a real aspie would engage the way you do .
No wonder the gov does not like aspies on the front line. We see it like it really is. we dont indulge in your orwellian double speak and character assasination .
You want proof ? go find it yourself like I have. I have reams of documentation and personal experience to draw on . And next time you take a domestic plane trip ,ask yourself how you would feel if the TSA did an invasive pat down on your baby daughter or GF .
how can you wrap your self in the flag when elected officials are tearing up your constitution in front of your face ? Beats me.
Of course play victim of reasonable requests to communicate in logic based debate. You offer no solutions just assertions. No proof just items of belief you expect myself and others to believe or else "we are one of them". In a world of danger there are reasonable accommodations needed to protect the public. You are equipped of a whole modality of conspiracy from history to the present and any reasonable and grounded person would want rational means to construct new beliefs based on logic and not illusion.
The persecution of conspiracy theory in the minds of out of this world thinkers let alone outside of the box thinking is not just induced by everyday intellectual discourse but that from reasonable argumentation and investigation. Outside of the box thinking comes down to allowing oneself to think in "if's" and possabilics and not simply that's how things should be without solutions or are for certain without fact. Creative outside of the box thinking seeks to innovate and yet conspiracy many times has no ability to ground itself and becomes irrational belief(s).
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'Reasonable accomodations'
I think that just about says it all .
And now I am a conspiracy theorist to add to all the other labels you've slapped on my back. Thanks 'Bud'.
I suppose you consider Auswitz and Dachau reasonable accomodation too. Room and board anyone? Oh no , not just anyone .You've got to be singled out for' special attention'. Catalogued and labeled an enemy of the state for that to happen , Right ?
"If your not with us your against us" Who said that not so very long ago ?
Answer : your friend but certainly not mine , George Bush .
You see, for some of us ,your agenda is PATENTLY OBVIOUS FROM THE GET GO.
So thats why I have posted my opinion on this thread , because like so many returned vets under a gag order the young man who started this thread may find that the reality of frontline service does not measure up to the rhetoric. He certainly would not be the first aspie to experience that .
Them folk beamed you up but won't let you beam back. Breath deeply and get a reality check. Assumption after assumption and illusion within presumption.
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Them folk beamed you up but won't let you beam back. Breath deeply and get a reality check. Assumption after assumption and illusion within presumption.
and when all else fails and your backed in to a corner ,resort to scathing ridicule....
I'd like to say your good at what you do but your not really are you ?
Goebbels once very correctly observed that if his propaganda ministry repeated the lie often enough the people would believe it .
So now I am an alien abductee too ! wow thats a long list your building up for me .
How many lists are you building up on people here ?
Right up to the point where he started turning the whole of europe in to a war zone, everybody in the US media was saying what a great guy herr hitler was.
And now The US has its own version of the brown shirts and the SS has been renamed homeland security so that it sounds ,well you know, homey and safe while they kick down your door and arrest you for having some arbitrary label thats been foisted on you at an autism forum.
Paranoia on my part ? I sincerely hope so, i really do .
Peace in our time . yeah ,it sounded wonderfull and everyone wanted to believe it .But sadly churchill was right .
A corner of illusion based on conspiracy and false fact to mold to the conspiracy beliefs. Then as I said victim of the false beliefs and your attempt to do what you say I did to you but you did to me first. So I guess we are even. If you want to be taken seriously follow the reasonable suggestions I made to you. I've spent much time studying the nature of delusion as a extreme focus of mine for some years, It's my talent. I can teach you how to count but that does not mean you will count apples as apples but apples as oranges when they are supposed to be separated.
I get beamed up and down to a cloud in the sky to think all the time.
"head in the clouds".
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I think that the evidence is pretty much overwhelming and I think that it has happened more than once that a soldier has asked his military Chaplain "If Communism is so bad why did the early Church practice it as recorded in the book of Acts?" Todays military Chaplains dismiss any attempts at religious Communism as a Jim Jones cult but back in the Vietnam era it was a little more difficult to explain away. Also problamatic is that Monastaries can be considered working models of communes as well as the Kibbutz in modern day Israel. Of course this does not mean that Communism is for everyone. Communism practiced in the early Church failed because of free loading and most people find an incentive to work to satisfy their own selfish interest rather than the common good. Nevertheless the proponents of Communism claim that if anyone can ever get it to work it will be like Heaven on Earth.
I think that the reason why Communism is impossible to prove is that it too closely identifies with the ideology of the enemy. This will be overcome when one learns how to love their enemies and understand how the enemy thinks. Anyway the topic is too hot and subversive for any clergyman too seriously consider so while no clergyman would claim that there are bible verses that are Satanic nevertheless these problamatic verses are very easily ignored.
As far as all of these Alien abduction dellusions I think that these are challenges more for schizophrenics than they are for autistics but it is very easy for neurotypicals to dismiss any individual that thinks differently as a nutcase.
"One of them" when thinking logically as well.
The modality of autism politics online has at times a mechanism of protectionism of agenda. That is to say what is not conditioned as a belief of autism within acceptable perimeters is of the N.T's. I learned that early on and had no diagnostic identity crises and found that offline people with autism are much different then that of the presumption online in agenda based social groups.
I think what differs from me then at least some is my since young curiosity of the mind and ability to discuss such matters with highly qualified individuals. Yet for some reason I am deemed threatening from time to time for thinking when I ask that others simply do so for themselves. The poster of heated debate is obviously hate filled and offers very little facts.. He is undiagnosed and likely drawn to my Men in Black Avatar thinking I am a governmental importance.
I don't even like Bush.
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Communism is designed to sound good in theory and implemented effectively because it promises so much. But just like every religion ever concieved ,it thrives on fear ,unquestioning obediance and rabid intolerance of anyone who dares to question its authority. Same goes for fascism .
freebooters and power hungry egomaniacs with low self esteem are drawn to these power cults like flies to the proverbial .
priest or politician the end result is no different .
Whenever you drive people in to the war zone ,morale maintenance is abolutely vital and for anyone of a religious bent ,the chaplain of course provides solace and a reason to go on in the face of death . After all , gods on your side so dont feel to bad about all those gruesome civilian deaths you had a hand in.
But who will stand and fight when the cause is just and real freedom is threatened ? That is the real question.
War should be conducted with the solemnity of a funeral because thats really what it is .A grim proccesion of legalised murder.
I am not anti american , but the whole world watches her foriegn policy with astonishment as endless cia funded coups install brutal puppet regimes and call it 'spreading democracy'. And now comes the blowback . When the puppet master no longer dances to washingtons tune its time to destabilise him and install a fresh one. This is what the grunt on the frontline see's as the disillusion sets in.
I once visited a member of my family who was an Oxford educated scholar and history teacher . many years before anyone including me could believe it possible , he predicted the downfall of the american empire would happen just as its roman antecedant. He lived in the weimar republic as hitler started his climb to power so he already knew all the signs to watch out for from bitter personal experience.
The war starts when innocent minds are succesfully corrupted by propaganda and jingoism. When people loose everything ,they loose it .
People often looking at Hitler as an example such as yourself also confuse what they call signs with symptoms of the world as it is in reality. With the right kind of imagination and desire to be right you can make apples into oranges. It's really insulting to have someone both desire for the fall of a free country and consider a great evil of the past the same one as the you desire to fall that defeated that enemy. I think you are just a very confused and propaganda filled person yourself. If you look up the real meaning of the word propaganda as seen on Wikipedia you are definitely a propagandist. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Propaganda
I'm thinking that instead of being so very diluted, hateful and arrogant with your approach you could actually be a bit respectful and seek constructive solutions. On the other hand it seems you are more then a bit hard headed and just want to see destruction yourself. Really warped and just not seeking balanced conversation, solutions or diplomatic appeal. It's just that great evil to you.
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I'm thinking that instead of being so very diluted, hateful and arrogant with your approach you could actually be a bit respectful and seek constructive solutions. On the other hand it seems you are more then a bit hard headed and just want to see destruction yourself. Really warped and just not seeking balanced conversation, solutions or diplomatic appeal. It's just that great evil to you.
If your country was still free it would not be falling . I dread the fall of the US because the fallout does not bear thinking about.
History teaches us that people dont learn the lessons of history.
all empires fall eventually . The british fell , the russians fell and now its your turn im sorry to say .
Its called reality , and your people are having to deal with it as we speak. Isnt coping with reality what this forum is all about ?
America simply is an empire amongst empires that work together and is not like Rome. Rome tried to conquer the earth but America does not conquest to get more land but inspires freedom. You have entered the conversation so sure of yourself because you have papers and you have pride in some people you know. You even aspire to support the morale of people who attacked a free country and wish to dominate it with violations of basic human liberties who want just like you the economic fall of the country. When asked for proof of facts you won't provide evidence..
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So far you have been doing exactly the same thing of what you accuse others of.
Where are your facts to prove him wrong ?.
Please keep going with this discussion its interesting (no sarcasm).
I did not come here to provide you with proof and even if it was practical you would still refute it because your blind patriotism wont stand aside long enough .
hi TB, Glad your enjoying the show . "are you not entertained"? ! !! !!
Here's the thing. Its called free speech. The last remaining corner stone of your once free country and Im going to exercise it until your gov pries my lap top from my cold dead fingers . which they are trying to do with congress proposing internet filters now.
So if you enjoy invasive pat downs and warrantless searches you just go on towing the latest governement lies like Oh whats the latest ? 'change we can believe in'
And exactly where have i condoned invasion of a country ? No mate, thats your gov doing all that unilateral invasion stuff.
If you cant handle the truth there's no point anyone trying to provide you with any.
all you've done since I had the temerity to post an opinion here is slanderously try to categorise me to minimise any impact I may have on open minded free thinking individuals.
Its the sort of thing governement trolls are payed to do all the time these days . So what are they afraid of ?
simple answer ; people taking back their gov from special interest groups like oil ,wall street and the arms industry .
And if you cant see that when the proof is all around you then there's nothing I or anyone else can do.
why does all this seem relevant to this thread topic ? because minorities are always the first to become scapegoats when the people grow dissilusioned with a gov thats failed and bankrupted their future. When their backs are against the wall and the latest lies dont paste over the cracks the answer is always to externalise the threat to reunify the nation . At the moment its terrosists because they never did find any wmds in Iraq did they ? no they did not .And that was their excuse for invading a soveriegn country and seizing its oil while installing a new puppet regime.
Hitler used jews ,gypsies, homosexuals and just about any helpless minority he could cowardly pick on without fear of retaliation . You know absolutely nothing about me and yet youve accused me of being just about anything you can drag up WITHOUT PROOF in the hope that you can disable me .
Is this what you call advocacy ?
My beef is not with the american people ,so many of whom are very well aware of how far corrupted their gov has become . My beef is their beef and should be yours if you really truly love freedom .
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So far you have been doing exactly the same thing of what you accuse others of.
Where are your facts to prove him wrong ?.
Please keep going with this discussion its interesting (no sarcasm).
I have not at all. If you are speaking of the indirect of the conversation such as perhaps evidence of Iraq having nuclear weapons then well I'd agree. However he has made gross assertions about history which are down right incorrect and will not provide evidence. It's a mentality of manifestions of falsehoods for the sake of anti-american appeal then goes on to say something about free speech. I am not saying the speech is illegal but am implying the discussion cannot be grounded because of absurd beliefs.
It takes a certain kind of person to go as far as he has. Not only supporting the morale of terrorists, seeking the demise of America but then accusing America for taking the necessary steps to protect itself with security measures. No matter what given the approach he has something to say but if he had his way there would be no airport security which would encourage terrorist attacks which he morally supports as freedom fighters.
It would seem very much like he would endorse a self-fulfilled prediction or else America is Nazi's or rather anyways Nazi like. What I'd like to see is solutions beyond the accusations. Solutions rather then the desire for destruction. So should you both want productive conversation try not to be one sided but comprehensive with regards to the worlds problems. America should not be responsible for paying for global security nor can it be blamed for world instability. At some point we may just have to let things take a more natural flow but then be accused of sitting it out while people died.
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WTF, How did this turn into a debate about Nazis.
Anyway, on topic, is your position a Direct combat, like infantry or armored, or something like MP, Transport, Support or Artillery. If your in the latter I don't see any reason to discharge you. If you in a combat role cant they reassign you? Even then if you have passed all you training, and are good at what you do, they should not be discharging you.
Your right HERMID, its getting way off topic but the problem this guy has remains that he is being unfairly discharged and for my part i was suggesting a number or reasons why that may be the case .
After all with so many private contracters of dubious background such as blackwater getting in on the act ,the last thing the US gov needs is a blunt honest aspie observing things that are sensitive or embarrasing . Even if he is rear echelon ,the word gets around logistics . And the point is he wants to remain with his unit.
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