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Awesomelyglorious
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24 Dec 2006, 10:31 pm

krist wrote:
i still feel sorry for people not well read on the subject i was talking about "old american writings of fascism". your points well made, mate! as i stated i think the god old us of a is becoming a fascist police state. i still think that nazis ultamately become capitolist. i just wanted you to make a point thanks.

No problem. I still disagree with the idea of fascism being highly capitalistic as I see militarism, interventionism, etc, as being non-capitalist and fascist economics as being a highly interventionist system. I can agree somewhat with the idea that the US might be getting a bit too fascist, based upon the interventionism in the economy and the strong emphasis on nationalism and morality at the expense of rights.



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25 Dec 2006, 2:29 pm

krist wrote:
nazis-sozis are capitolists if you look at the whole rotting mess. fascists are super capitolists aka corperatism.


Nazis were socialists, and even called themselves such. The word Nazi literally means "National Socialist".



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25 Dec 2006, 3:15 pm

Psychlone wrote:
Nazis were socialists, and even called themselves such. The word Nazi literally means "National Socialist".

Well, Nazis weren't perfectly socialist, they really were seeking a third way between capitalism and communism which is why they didn't have complete nationalization of industry, instead opting for corporatism. He never really advanced that big of an argument for his position though but I'd say that most sources would agree that these groups weren't very capitalistic, the only argument I have seen made that comes close is saying that fascism is the inevitable result of capitalism's problems, but that doesn't even seem plausible given the fact that Germany never was one of the most capitalistic nations before Nazism and considering the huge governmental involvement that contributed to the depressions in the world at that time.



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29 Dec 2006, 1:22 am

George Bush is a voice and frontman for a much larger agenda. His simplistic antics and low iq (not to mention his alcohol problem) doesn't allow him to do much more. George W is controlled by much higher and more forceful entities. Entities who are much higher than him on the chain. Tony Blair is higher up than Bush, he is at the 33rd degree in the freemasonary chain. George can only dream, dream and work as a patsy. "Slowly but surely he will blossom!" This is what his father has always hoped. "If my son cannot become a success by himself, I will create a position of power for him." "But he will start at the bottom of the chain and work hard as his forefathers have." So who is puppeteer? There are a few of them. No Punch without Judy. I can't make it too easy, people don't appreciate knowledge until they have discovered it for themselves. Look into the secret societies. Investigate Zionism. Tolerate the antics of Bohemian Grove. Really get to know the Rothschild family. See the footage of 9-11, don't just watch it, see it.

I don't have an opinion, I have well researched information.

I can post links when I have worked out how and if people are interested. I wouldn't just assume and do it. My limited however focussed interests have me doing too much reading and not enough of the simple things like learning how to operate a computer efficiently.

Cheers to all, Chris.



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29 Dec 2006, 1:40 am

I have a feeling that Bush is a sold-out conservative, but conservatives would never admit that because they think only liberals compromise their values for votes.