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larsenjw92286
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10 May 2007, 7:11 pm

Really?


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10 May 2007, 7:15 pm

larsenjw92286 wrote:
Really?


yeah...it's one of the annoying things about living in a poorer area and driving by the same bums. you see 'em soaking in the sun drinking up. others are already drunk or messed up on drugs (or simple insane from exposure...but the first two are more likely and probable considering all factors....including the nearby liquor store).



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10 May 2007, 7:16 pm

I can't believe it!


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10 May 2007, 7:22 pm

larsenjw92286 wrote:
I can't believe it!


i hope you're being sarcastic...because if not, you're in for a real let down when you look into the dichotomy of how fascist leaders come to power.



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10 May 2007, 7:23 pm

I wonder why I even thought of that anyway!


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11 May 2007, 12:09 pm

They should have to work for their meals. Heck, they should bring back workhouses. Peoples' houses should not be taken away anyway, unless they really push it with authorities and don't do anything about their financial situation.


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11 May 2007, 12:10 pm

I said, it was just their luck!


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11 May 2007, 4:21 pm

calandale wrote:
Given that many homeless people are that way,
due to drug addictions, and just doing the drugs
is a crime, how can one be surprised?

Further, given that these drugs tend to be expensive,
and an addiction cannot be easily avoided, once again,
is it surprising?

Hell, it's illegal to panhandle in some places. More of
these 'criminal' homeless.


Miraculously I agree with you on this one. I used to be homeless once (although I never looked like a scraggly crack addict). There are a few homeless people (I was one of these) who honestly got a bad deal and it wasn't their fault. But the majority of them, theyr homeless because they are either alcoholics or crackheads, and have thrown everything away.
However, you might be surprised at some of their stories, what lead them to become drug addicts. Many of them, believe it or not, were once respectable people with jobs and families.



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11 May 2007, 4:22 pm

But that's no excuse for them to be lazy and sit out of work and rob innocent people for crack money.



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11 May 2007, 4:59 pm

Absolutely!

That must be hard to believe, but true!


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11 May 2007, 8:41 pm

larsenjw92286 wrote:
How do you know that? You're all the way over on the other coast!


It's a rather general problem, although I have heard about criticisms of the way Seattle's city government handles the issue. Although more recently, they started backing away a bit and have been accused of initiating a crackdown.

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should i say hail hitler or salute stalin?


Hitler was a backer of murdering people with mental disabilities (and other disabilities, and lots of other people). I'm not sure about Stalin. I remember this his government was obsessive in researching the idea of a "new Soviet Man," and attempted anti-science research to that effect, although in regards to disabled people I don't remember.

I am not some ruthless maniac. It has not always been "normal" and "compassionate" in the United States to permit the homeless to sleep on the street, and doing otherwise did not turn the country into a fascist dictatorship.

Statistics on homelessness.

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An estimated 842,000 adults and children are homeless in a given week, with that number swelling to as many as 3.5 million over the course of a year. People who are homeless are the poorest of the poor. While almost half (44%) of people who are homeless work at least part-time, their monthly income averages only $367 compared to the median monthly income for U.S. households of $2,840. Those who have disabilities and are unable to work can find it nearly impossible to secure affordable housing in virtually every major housing market in the country.


The majority are unaccompanied adults, but the number of homeless families is growing:

* 66% are single adults, and of these, three-quarters are men
* 11% are parents with children, 84% of whom are single women
* 23% are children under 18 with a parent, 42% of whom are under 5 years of age

Racial and ethnic minorities, particularly African Americans, are overrepresented:

* 41% are non-Hispanic whites (compared to 76% of the general population)
* 40% are African Americans (compared to 11% of the general population)
* 11% are Hispanic (compared to 9% of the general population)
* 8% are Native American (compared to 1% of the general population)

Homelessness continues to be a largely urban phenomenon:

* 71% are in central cities
* 21% are in suburbs
* 9% are in rural areas

People who are homeless frequently report health problems:

* 38% report alcohol use problems
* 26% report other drug use problems
* 39% report some form of mental health problems (20-25% meet criteria for serious mental illness)
* 66% report either substance use and/or mental health problems
* 3% report having HIV/AIDS
* 26% report acute health problems other than HIV/AIDS such as tuberculosis, pneumonia, or sexually transmitted diseases
* 46% report chronic health conditions such as high blood pressure, diabetes, or cancer

People who are homeless also have high rates of other background characteristics:

* 23% are veterans (compared to 13% of the general population)
* 25% were physically or sexually abused as children
* 27% were in foster care or institutions as children
* 21% were homeless as children
* 54% were incarcerated at some point of their lives


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People with serious mental illnesses are over-represented among the homeless population. While only four percent of the U.S. population has a serious mental illness, five to six times as many people who are homeless (20-25%) have serious mental illnesses. Their diagnoses include the most personally disruptive and serious mental illnesses, including severe, chronic depression; bipolar disorder; schizophrenia; schizoaffective disorders; and severe personality disorders.1


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11 May 2007, 9:10 pm

Yes!

Seattle is a lot safer than it used to be!


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11 May 2007, 9:19 pm

larsenjw92286 wrote:
Seattle is a lot safer than it used to be!


For some reason I forgot to mention this in my last post. I have no personal problem with Seattle or anything, although I probably wouldn't want to live there (probably, just like not wanting to live in any city). I wouldn't mind visiting though.



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11 May 2007, 9:20 pm

I'm sorry, it's always been safe!


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11 May 2007, 9:46 pm

Oh, I wasn't talking about safety (and Seattle seems to be very safe, especially in regards to violent crime*, for an American city).

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ADDENDUM: It's just I like something more rural, and politically I probably wouldn't fit in really well.



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11 May 2007, 9:47 pm

Absolutely!


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