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31 Jul 2018, 9:57 pm

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As someone who has nearly always been in schools for diagnosed autistics, I know that many can not handle a standard workload. Which is one reason why they are in those schools. Having to do things and keep schedules that are outside of their normal operating mode, can be extremely taxing. It's part of the disability for some. I have experienced this myself even though I am a very determined person.


Therein lies the difference, though. Sly says “I can’t,” instead of “I will try.” IMO, that’s his single biggest constraint to working a different job or different hours. Well, as far as one can assess from years of forum posts, at least.

Sly has said it’s not the tasks, it’s the hours. (That prevent him from working more than he does.) And that’s why I asked him what happens after x amount of time that prevents him from completing an 8h workday. He has yet to respond, so I don’t really know beyond his “I can’t,” statements.

Leave Sly alone. Maybe he isn't responding because he never asked for your advice.


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31 Jul 2018, 9:59 pm

BeaArthur wrote:
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As someone who has nearly always been in schools for diagnosed autistics, I know that many can not handle a standard workload. Which is one reason why they are in those schools. Having to do things and keep schedules that are outside of their normal operating mode, can be extremely taxing. It's part of the disability for some. I have experienced this myself even though I am a very determined person.


Therein lies the difference, though. Sly says “I can’t,” instead of “I will try.” IMO, that’s his single biggest constraint to working a different job or different hours. Well, as far as one can assess from years of forum posts, at least.

Sly has said it’s not the tasks, it’s the hours. (That prevent him from working more than he does.) And that’s why I asked him what happens after x amount of time that prevents him from completing an 8h workday. He has yet to respond, so I don’t really know beyond his “I can’t,” statements.

Leave Sly alone. Maybe he isn't responding because he never asked for your advice.


Or perhaps he’s still upset because you called him a loser. I know I’d be pretty pissed about that if I were him, but only sly can tell us for sure.


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31 Jul 2018, 10:19 pm

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As someone who has nearly always been in schools for diagnosed autistics, I know that many can not handle a standard workload. Which is one reason why they are in those schools. Having to do things and keep schedules that are outside of their normal operating mode, can be extremely taxing. It's part of the disability for some. I have experienced this myself even though I am a very determined person.


Me too. I coped ok with school. 9-3:30 was manageable plus school had defined tasks. Teacher says do x,y,z and I do that. Easy.

Work is different. Random, arbritary expectations. Goal posts constantly changing. People not answering questions and giving me vague answers. 9-5 kills me. I was working 9-5:30 and commuting 1 hour each way either side at one point and that pushed me over the edge. I burned out and had to give up my career as a developer.

I feel like a failure because I couldn't keep up with learning new skills and keeping on top of changes in how things are done. Mastered PHP, ok now learn a framework. Mastered css, now learn LESS... at home... on top of your taxing day and commute.

I work in an office 10 min commute from home now. It's boring. I'm still exhausted, but it's easier to cope with. I'm playing the guitar again and cooking meals again and feel happier for it.

Work isn't all that life is about. We have to find what works best for us.

Retail would kill me though.



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31 Jul 2018, 10:21 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
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goldfish21 wrote:
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As someone who has nearly always been in schools for diagnosed autistics, I know that many can not handle a standard workload. Which is one reason why they are in those schools. Having to do things and keep schedules that are outside of their normal operating mode, can be extremely taxing. It's part of the disability for some. I have experienced this myself even though I am a very determined person.


Therein lies the difference, though. Sly says “I can’t,” instead of “I will try.” IMO, that’s his single biggest constraint to working a different job or different hours. Well, as far as one can assess from years of forum posts, at least.

Sly has said it’s not the tasks, it’s the hours. (That prevent him from working more than he does.) And that’s why I asked him what happens after x amount of time that prevents him from completing an 8h workday. He has yet to respond, so I don’t really know beyond his “I can’t,” statements.

Leave Sly alone. Maybe he isn't responding because he never asked for your advice.


Or perhaps he’s still upset because you called him a loser. I know I’d be pretty pissed about that if I were him, but only sly can tell us for sure.


No, she did not. I've been at odds with Bea before, so I'm not playing advocate. The simple fact is she did not call Sly a loser. Sly is the one who first said, "lonely loser aspie". Bea quoted him on it. Hence Bea's statement "lonely loser aspie guy" being in quotations.



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31 Jul 2018, 10:44 pm

Sly, gtfo out retail if interacting with people is negatively impacting your health. There are other jobs. Hell, in the trade I’m apprenticing there are a lot of “lone wolf,” types.

Today the young Journeyman I’m working with told me there’s a crew of 6 subcontractors coming in to help this rush job tmw.. I was like “Ok, cool, I like those guys and their work is good.” Him: “Good, you can work with them. I like working by myself.”

There are a LOT of solo artists in this trade who don’t like people or working with others unless they have to - you’d fit right in! :D Plus you’ve said you have a great eye for detail & that’s hella important for quality control in a finishing trade. Just gotta have decent hand coordination. And your tall height (and likely long arm span) is a plus, too.

You’re probably not particularly interested in making walls and ceilings smooth & corners crisp, buuuut I’m just sayin’, there are jobs out there that require minimal interaction with others And attract a Lot of “I work by myself,” types of guys. Look into jobs with those sort of criteria in mind. Waaaay better than retail hell.. and higher pay, too.


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01 Aug 2018, 6:57 am

hurtloam wrote:
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As someone who has nearly always been in schools for diagnosed autistics, I know that many can not handle a standard workload. Which is one reason why they are in those schools. Having to do things and keep schedules that are outside of their normal operating mode, can be extremely taxing. It's part of the disability for some. I have experienced this myself even though I am a very determined person.


Me too. I coped ok with school. 9-3:30 was manageable plus school had defined tasks. Teacher says do x,y,z and I do that. Easy.

Work is different. Random, arbritary expectations. Goal posts constantly changing. People not answering questions and giving me vague answers. 9-5 kills me. I was working 9-5:30 and commuting 1 hour each way either side at one point and that pushed me over the edge. I burned out and had to give up my career as a developer.

I feel like a failure because I couldn't keep up with learning new skills and keeping on top of changes in how things are done. Mastered PHP, ok now learn a framework. Mastered css, now learn LESS... at home... on top of your taxing day and commute.

I work in an office 10 min commute from home now. It's boring. I'm still exhausted, but it's easier to cope with. I'm playing the guitar again and cooking meals again and feel happier for it.

Work isn't all that life is about. We have to find what works best for us.

Retail would kill me though.


Programming is an ever-learning discipline.

I've never learned PHP , my first language I wrote with was C# for games and personal stuff.... then Powershell for work scripts and automation, then I learned Node.js last year for a large scale project at work (because that's the language choice they use for projects at my workplace) , i am still in the middle of mastering Node.js/Mongodb- AngularJS/css/html and now they want to include a f*** blockchain thing just because it's a trendy word (but makes little sense for our use cases)....so I will have to learn too either Golang or Java or Solidity for smart contracts.

In fact, there's so much overtime work in programming to meet deadlines and they're never paid.

Maybe I should have picked an accounting career path instead, accounting didn't change since its creation.



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01 Aug 2018, 3:39 pm

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Stop bickering in The Haven.

And, Goldfish, back-off. Don't keep badgering Sly with unsolicited advice.

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02 Aug 2018, 2:23 am

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Hey Sly I've only just noticed this thread. I feel bad that I didn't know how you were feeling or about your job situation. I almost didn't go into work on Monday because I was so exhausted after my panic attack on Sunday. I thankfully had very little work to do and managed to get through the day.

Sly managed to calm me down after a panic attack I had the other day.

I'm sorry I couldn't do the same for you buddy.

It’s ok. I’m glad you made it through.
My department is very slow so leaves lots of time to think, or spiral deeper into anxiety and panic attack.

I hope I can keep working here, i dont know who else would hire an autistic who can only work 15 hours a week 4-5 hours a day. My work would not have hired me if they known that. They were initially upset when they found out. On other hand i dont know what I’ll be able to transfer to and or if I’ll be able to adopt, I’ll have to learn a lot just about retail systems and then try and fail to learn about stuff which I won’t spend my off time doing(don’t pay enough) they may not find me anything since non department wants me, will the store manager and hr make them take me, won’t that cause the department manager and staff to hate and despise me? Maybe I just can’t work and have no place in thise world but to be a lazy parasite. :cry:



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02 Aug 2018, 4:47 am

Hopefully hr will work with you and hopefully the staff won't hate you for having a disability. There are businesses that show human kindness, so hopefully this is one of them. There's plenty of people who can't work or do much work because of disability. There's a big difference between can't and won't.



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05 Aug 2018, 5:26 pm

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Seeking mild disability friendly employer

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My name is Sly <insert real name>. I’m 29 years old and a long time resident of <town>, Oregon. After 3 years of employment, my retail department is being downsized and I need to find a new job. I’m seeking an employer that can work with me and my mild form of High Functioning Autism.

Unfortunately Hollywood stereotypes aren’t true or I’d be counting cards in a casino with Tom Cruise. :) The long and the short of what HFA actually means is that I’m not so great with people, but perfectly fine with places and things. (Two out of three ain’t bad!)

My educational background is in Automotive Mechanics and my interests and hobbies vary from coin collecting to precision firearms and their safe recreational use.

I’m the kind of guy that’s perfect for those antisocial repetitive tasks like filing, data entry, or even better; quality control inspections, as I am gifted with an eye for detail that can only be rivaled by a Swiss watchmaker.

For various reasons, I’m presently unable to commit to a full time work schedule as it’s simply far too overwhelming for me. I’d make a great long term permanent, and very loyal, part time employee, though! While I appreciate the clear expectations of a corporate structured environment, I’m open to working for a mom ‘n pop shop or small family business, too. I’m hoping for 2-3 shifts a week, but open to discussing options.

If you think you might have some suitable work for me, or know someone else who may, please get in touch via email and let’s talk.

Thank you for your time & consideration,
Sly Sly’sLastname.



Edit & tweak it if you wish, copy and paste to the resumes section of craigslist and wait and see if you get any responses. I’ve written up very simple postings like this for myself (different, though, as I’ve never written one requesting disability accommodations) and have always received multiple interview/job offers.

Best of luck! 8)


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05 Aug 2018, 7:02 pm

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Stop bickering in The Haven.

And, Goldfish, back-off. Don't keep badgering Sly with unsolicited advice.

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That was from earlier in this very thread.

Sly, I personally would not use a letter like the one goldfish posted. Even though it may have worked for him, your personalities are totally different so I don't think it would work for you. Use employment databases to search for "part time" and you might also register with Vocational Rehabilitation for assistance getting this kind of work.


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06 Aug 2018, 3:11 am

It’s all pointless :cry:



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06 Aug 2018, 4:31 am

Goldfish's letter seems very good. :o



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06 Aug 2018, 8:20 am

In the UK we have a service called citizens advice. Do you have anything like the in Oregon? Might be useful to contact them rather than us in other states and countries. I did a quick google and found this website.

https://oregonlawhelp.org/issues/work



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06 Aug 2018, 12:13 pm

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Goldfish's letter seems very good. :o

Actually, if for some strange reason I ever decide to use dating sites again, I might ask you to help me with the profile, Goldfish. :lol:



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06 Aug 2018, 1:57 pm

BeaArthur wrote:
XFilesGeek wrote:
[MOD]

Stop bickering in The Haven.

And, Goldfish, back-off. Don't keep badgering Sly with unsolicited advice.

[/MOD]

That was from earlier in this very thread.

Sly, I personally would not use a letter like the one goldfish posted. Even though it may have worked for him, your personalities are totally different so I don't think it would work for you. Use employment databases to search for "part time" and you might also register with Vocational Rehabilitation for assistance getting this kind of work.


What about that post being earlier in this thread? So what?

Who cares if sly and I have different personalities? The job of an ad like that is marketing one’s self to solicit job offers. That’s what it intends to do. If it gets him a lead or two, sly can take it from there and communicate about qualifications and job expectations etc on his own. I see no problem with sly using my text to potentially get himself noticed & maybe find suitable employment.

If you want to do nothing to help someone in distress, that’s your choice. But I can craft a few simple words that might make their job search oh so much easier, so, I did. He’s not obligated to use it. But he’s welcome to use it and see if it gets any responses.


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