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18 Jan 2020, 12:06 pm

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I think the seagulls are the most annoying though, I don't even know why they are here, there is no sea here


"Seagull" is a bit of a meaningless term and is generally not used by ornithologists, who tend to just use the family name of "gull". There are about 50-60 species of gull worldwide (the number keeps changing due to taxonomic changes). Only a few of them are true seabirds that only ever come to land to breed. The rest are primarily coastal birds though they are great opportunists and very adaptable so they readily take to all sorts of habitats, including those inland.


Gulls compete with crows as opportunists and scavengers. They make every dumpster in America a "study in black and white".

But if you go to Salt Lake City you will see a big statue of a flock of gulls.

When the Mormons fled to Utah back in the 1800's , and tried to survive in the Utah desert they had a "plague of locusts" that almost wiped out their crops and would have wiped the Mormons out by starvation. But then....a flock of gulls appeared over the horizon just in time...and the gulls swooped down and ate all of the locusts, saving the Mormon settlers. The Mormons deemed the gull attack to be a miracle sent by God. And the event is still honored in Mormon Utah legend.


That does make sense, does seem the gulls like to hang out around parking lots a lot.


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18 Jan 2020, 12:33 pm

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Yeah. That's what I said. That both countries have a mix of migrating and nonmigrating species of birds.

But the US has at least two birds that were recently introduced from England. And both are now considered to be pests. One is the English sparrow, and the other is the starling.

A small club of people released about 100 starlings into Central Park in New York City in the 1890s.

There were no starlings here before that.

The birds thrived, and then multiplied, and then spread beyond the Big Apple, and today...there are millions of them everywhere in the US east of the Rockies.

The reason that those folks released the original starlings in Central Park?

They were a club of folks who had as a mission to introduce into America every bird that is mentioned in the works of William Shakespeare! :lol:

Seems a bit "bird brained" to me. But I suppose that folks have found even dumber reasons to do things. :lol:


You mention starlings. What a fascinating bird. They copy sounds.
Where we used to live, the row of houses opposite were one by one having new roofs fitted. They no longer wanted old fasion slate and wanted to modernize them and fit concrete style tyles. Our house was old and had been modernized about 80 to 200 years before and the old thatch had been removed and lovely light blue Pembrokeshire tiles. The houses opposite had the duller purple North Wales slates which could have lasted many years more but they wanted modern so were changing.
Now naturally the roofing people were hammering on the rooves. Taking the old slates and chucking them in skips (There was not the market for keeping the slates intact in those days.. 20+ years later slates have become expensive)... Then hammering on the new tiles. Some of the roofs sagged under the weight as the slates were lighter then the new tiles but they were not to know, and the roofers didn't know because they had no long changed to the tiles, and were all out busy when the fasion to change had caught.... Knock knock knock... We lives on a bank higher then the houses opposite so we were looking down on them in a way. The sound of knocking was amplified due to the way the accoustics hit us. The traffic on the road used to rattle our windows! So the sound of knocking went on and on. Uhmm. On and on. The weeks turned into months. Surely the roofers had long finnished changing the rooves? They had. Months later the starlings were repeating the sound with such accuracy!
We had fun when cars started to be fitted with alarma. These birds would copy and whole towns had alarms going off!
The funny one... We would hear a siren of an anbulance, police car, fire engine or the coastguard and we would look at the road to see what was passing.... Nothing. It was those birds again!


WTF?

Your starlings mimic ambient man made noise?

Never heard, nor heard of, starlings doing that here in the States.

Mockingbirds are called that because they imitate the songs of other bird species.

And parrots can be taught to "talk" (ie repeat your human language words).

And myna birds do that one better by not only repeating your words, but actually reproducing the sound of your voice when you say those words (like a living tape recorder).

And there was a memorable moment in a David Attenborough nature doc which showed a large bird in the depths of the New Guinea jungle (the lyre bird maybe?) that reproduced the sounds of things like chainsaws, and a bunch of other manmade machines that intrude into its environment.

But I never heard, nor heard of, of those little short tailed black birds, that are as common as dirt around here in Rockville Maryland doing that sort of thing. 8O



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18 Jan 2020, 12:59 pm



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26 Jan 2020, 8:34 am

I like birds on a plate in front of me like baked chicken, fried chicken, rotisserie chicken, chicken sandwiches, buffalo wings, fried turkey, turkey sandwiches ect.


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26 Jan 2020, 8:52 am

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I like birds on a plate in front of me like baked chicken, fried chicken, rotisserie chicken, chicken sandwiches, buffalo wings, fried turkey, turkey sandwiches ect.


Someone beat you to the punchline, and said that already.
You forgot to mention turkey. Some folks even like pheasant.

But yeah...there ARE birds that are good to eat. No non vegetarian can deny that.

Like their eggs too.



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26 Jan 2020, 9:11 am

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I like birds on a plate in front of me like baked chicken, fried chicken, rotisserie chicken, chicken sandwiches, buffalo wings, fried turkey, turkey sandwiches ect.


Someone beat you to the punchline, and said that already.
You forgot to mention turkey. Some folks even like pheasant.

But yeah...there ARE birds that are good to eat. No non vegetarian can deny that.

Like their eggs too.
I only skimmed through the posts.
Eggs are hard on my stomach. They're fine when in something like baked goods but eating them by themselves or when they're on something like a sandwich or biscuit & I get stomach cramps & need to use the bathroom a few times.


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26 Jan 2020, 9:57 am

I like fried chicken and roasted duck. I do not like roasted turkey.



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28 Jan 2020, 10:51 pm

I like birds but I don’t know how to spot one and know the bird name. I would love to go birdwatching sometime and just learn about different birds! :D


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28 Jan 2020, 11:24 pm

Pretty simple stuff! Do you live somewhere you can put food out for birds? It's easy to get them to come to a suburban backyard or even in town. Even city pigeons (the Rock Dove) are beautiful birds


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29 Jan 2020, 6:35 pm

I love birds that are green. They look like feathered Sweet Peas.


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30 Jan 2020, 9:33 am

Bird is the word :arrow:


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