[ POLL ] What Constitutes Bullying?

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Evidence, Below; Per 'This Case' of
Mr. Fnord Bullying Others; Specifically me,
in this Instance; Only, Because He Suggests Evidence is required
for a 'guilty verdict' as such for Bullying Behavior on this Internet Site.

Considering that i have Close to a Photographic Memory For Text;
This Post could get a lot longer, Per my 'Memory Bank', Where i Have stored
Most all the instances Where Mr. Fnord, 'Intellectually' Bullied Me By Using
Degrading Words, Suggesting that my Philosophical Poetic Descriptions
Are Evidence of Incoherence; A Nonsensical Mind; Personal Attacks on
my Mental (Health) Well Being, Overall, as continuing Bullying Behavior for
Years, in this Case, Of course, i'm a big enough boy not to tattle, in my case.

But of course, i have the reference Point of a Common Experience of Folks
Rolling down the Windows of their Car and Yelling Out Legend to me for
The 13,452 Miles of Public Dance in 83 Months, i have accomplished
in my Metro Area; along with other Non-Bullying Behavior like, "Do you
Know how famous You Are", "You are a Real Hero"; And Generally Speaking,
"How Much Greater the World would be if more folks like you existed." As
Far As the writing goes, Where folks have what it takes to understand me more fully;
Profound Genius is Not an Uncommon, Non-Bullying Behavior that Comes to my Ears.

i was just dancing cause it felt good; i was whole; i didn't need anything
from anyone else; other folks Noticed and Naturally Provided Applause;
Not everyone Looks Up to someone who 'has More'; Namely, Bullies who 'have less'.

Of course, for anyone with a Small Knowledge of Philosophy; It's a Well
known FACT that in the STUDY of it; Many folks Claim the Only way to
actually Discuss the 'ineffable' Parts of Philosophy is through Poetry;

Go Figure; i LiVE iN Heaven Within for 7 Years; i express the
Philosophy of the Experience Poetically and some folks don't understand
the 'Parables' And Such that some folks find insightful who understand;
Yes, Obviously, others don't. When there IS evidence that some folks gain
insight from the Communication and others don't; the best course of action
is to avoid Personal Attacks in Bullying because one does not understand what is being 'intimated'.

While Religion and Politics Demand a Target Audience, OBVIOUSLY, to Fulfill Validity in Bonding
And Binding Humans Together for Social Order; Philosophy, Will be as large as a Group of Individuals
With a Mutual and Consensual Understanding of Common Experiences; Or on the other hand, Folks
Who Live in Heaven Within, Literally as such; 'Autotelic' in Flow, With Copious Amounts of 'Frission',
Living A Life in Light of Truth in Beauty, Love's Wisdom; May surely have difficulty
Explaining to folks what this is; in any other way but Poetry that may reach
some folks, who have the Appropriate Experience in Life to understand
the metaphors that are being Provided. Hey; but at least i provide terms to
Google that Prove the Kingdom of Heaven in Metaphor is a REAL Feeling and
Sense and Higher Potential of Being With Much Greater Executive Functioning
in Focus, Short Term Memory, And Long Term Memory to increase Creativity
as Measured in Science, Five times Greater With Much More Productivity too;

Additionally, A Life of Moving Meditation is assessed by Science as Literally
a Fountain of Youth Slowing and Regenerating the Aging Process for Real;

Reams of evidence provided at 60 Years-Old that prove that from head to toe too...

As Far As Evidence for Creativity And Productivity that will be provided upon request too...

i suppose, Writing an 8.3 MiLLioN Word Epic Longest Long Form Poem
In the History of Humankind; in yes, Free Verse Poetry all about the Experience
of Heaven within described with Many Black Abyss to Beyond Rainbow Colors of Metaphors
That Are Indeed required to get anywhere close to communicate with others with some
Experiential Semblance of Understanding to get the 'Aha' Moments in Life Bringing 'Frission' in some cases;
is indeed evidence for Creativity; And surely, 13,452 Miles of Public Dance, additionally, in the Same span of
83 Months is Enough Evidence for Productivity and Creativity too; to be clear, Money does NOT HAVE TO
BE PART OF THE EQUATION; the Western World tends to be focused on External Rewards; i am coming
here from a More 'Eastern Place of Soul', for only Metaphor of Course too. Generally Speaking, around
Fear And Hate Tainted Folks 'Parables of Metaphors and the such' get to the intended audience soon and sooner too.

Again, Just one Specific example here,
In my recent "Memory Bank"; Easy enough
to Provide a Link for too if requested, of course.

starkid wrote:

"Why do you capitalize random words and post in short lines of text that look like poetry?"

funeralxempire wrote:

"That's just how he writes. If one is inclined to read his posts they're often insightful although the writing style makes it easy for posters to be very dismissive, but it's not as though the only respectable way to post is in essay form."

Fnord Wrote:

"Respectable ... contemptible ... whatever ... his posts are difficult to parse, and when I can make any sense of them at all they remind me of the rambling emo freeverse "poetry" that my ex-wife used to write and recite out loud to anyone who would listen. She was alcoholic and bipolar. What's his excuse?"

It's Worth Noting Here that Some of the Greatest Arts by Humankind Are Expressed by Folks with Bi-Polar Disorder.

And Of course they are noted Dead Legends.

In my Case, it only took 15 Months of actually
Public Dancing to hear that from Complete Strangers.

The Rewards are too numerous to count and none
of the rewards include Money or other Materialistic Stuff.

The Kingdom of Heaven is REALLY WITHIN.

EVEN THE old Bible makes this Clear but
folks who don't understand Metaphors
still don't get it; This is a real problem
in this World We Live in Now; Consuming
The Face of the Earth (Nature/God) Externally, Out of Balance,
Instead of Regenerating (Nature/God) Coming From a Place of Heaven Within.

i Don't Have to imagine Heaven or Hell; done 'em both.

Honestly, i value Fnord's contributions too much here to ever
do anything that would get him in trouble where
he is no longer allowed to contribute here....

In Fact, i Value Everyone's Contributions in Life;
Fortunately For Me, Rarely Am i Confused by
Any 'Kind' of Human communication; That's a Plus-up....

i surely would not complain, if i did not Understand;
in fact, i would Politely ask for clarification to Learn;
And i can't imagine Bullying anyone if i did not;
i Find it Cringe Worthy; and Very Sad;
For i have good Understanding of
Human Psychology And what
The Origin of this Issue is.

Yet, This is ALL Naturally A part
of the Kingdom of "Love" Heaven
within in Doing Least harm as
'the Sycamore' Grows taller...

There is no need
to Fear and Hate
what one Does Not Understand;

And there is No Need to Cut
A Sycamore Tree Down; For they
Grow even taller when allowed; hehe,
of course More Evidence Will Be Provided Upon Request than Most anyone could
Handle with Any 'Astronomical Device' to See 'The Top of this Sycamore Tree Still GRoWinG Now.

It's Kind of useless
to Bully a Tree; 'Living or Dead';
Particularly, If One Has no 'Saw'.

i Love This Song.

Do You?

Rhetorical Question,
only, my FRiEnD..

-the Grinning 'Bob Cat';
The Wolf, And The Smiling 'ChessHire'....
'Painting All the Colors of the Wind' All The Riches Around -me

SaveFerris soul was taken by WP and certain members and he can never return.

I have been told that I could return as a member ( maybe not now lol ) , but I can't change who I am , I would still have posted what I have posted , I would still be triggering to Magz because I won't shut up when I see hypocrites and injustice. That's a bit of a problem. It was not my intention to trigger anyone except Fnord and as he doesn't engage with trolls it's very difficult - it's been a real struggle to get a rise out of him and I hadn't even warmed up to the good stuff.

I will graciously retire now out of respect for Magz and no other reason.

And Kraftie I remember that thread well , fifasy was a very unwell man with a very very dark history.

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Double-binded messages? Yes, I think they deserve to be an option.

I would interpret in as pt 3 - denial, but maybe it deserves its own point.

That's clearly pt 9 - verbal or 10 - written.

Also, as we are talking about points lacking in the poll, I would like to include:
- spreading malicious gossip;
- excluding from rules aimed at protecting everyone.

So you have no respect for me?

Just said out of impulse. I don’t see the point of belaboring the issue.

You can’t let one Internet site, or any particular person, affect your life.

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Thanks.
I know you can be very supportive. And I do like your sense of humor. At least as long as you didn't edit my post for the sake of a joke - that was overboard.

I don't know, I always interpreted Fnord as genuine: lacking "tact" and socially clumsy, rule- and logic-oriented, with low emotional intelligence, high classic intelligence, interesting biography, thick skin out of necessity to survive it and little understanding for more intensive emotionalities; often making incorrect assumptions about things not told, which could be settled with clarification; capable of learning on the level of rules and logic but not on the level of sensitivity - and knowing it - thus, usually staying away from The Haven.
With all our discussions, I never encountered data contradicting this picture. Maybe simple "Ouch, it's a trigger, don't do it again!" when Fnord stomps on one's foot would have helped much better?

Most of the options in the poll can count in some circumstances, but many of them wouldn't inherently be bullying.

There is definitely such thing as “subtle bullying.” I’ve been the recipient of it.

Definitely there is such a thing.
Especially when someone knows a person's triggers and uses them intentionally - my close friend used to be a target of her very subtle, venomous "friend". Everyone could watch it from outside and even her brother had no idea what was going on. The only thing that helped was cutting ties - and then therapy.
I think the term "dog whistle" was coined for such situations. Most people may accidentally blow a dog whistle on occassions - it's probably impossible to avoid with existing diversity of human issues - but a true subtle bully can compose a symphony on them.

is that the same as microaggressions?

At times.

Especially if the microaggressions are intentional.

Microaggressions are, sometimes, an accumulation of many instances of subtle or slight bullying.

And sometimes they are simple lack of tact or awareness, that become hard to bear in long run.
I think it would be really hard to create functional black-and-white rules against subtle bullying that would leave space for regular discussions, though. That's the very nature of being subtle.

I had to learn when I was subtly bullied the hard way. It took me a really long time. I still sometimes “don’t get it.”

The only thing one can do to defend against it is point it out to the bully when the bully is subtly bullying one.

It’s an unfortunate aspect of being on the Spectrum—that one on the Spectrum is vulnerable to all sorts of subtle tricks.

if one is lucky, that will sail over the bully's head, or he will say another insult to distract you.

Keeping your calm is possibly the hardest part of fighting trolling - because the very purpose of trolling is making people lose their calm. But it's also the most successful.
"I don't agree to be called like that". "Just stop it." - at this moment you can tell a genuinely misinformed person (stops) from an abuser (tries harder). "I asked you to stop calling me that way". "I am not interested in this conversation and I want you to stop". "I demand you stop it or I report you" - that's usually sufficient for me.

if they just bandy their stooopid dogbark at me, i ignore them until they get into my face. then if they touch me, i go medieval.

I make a real effort not to let that crap affect me. I don’t always succeed.

It is the bully’s problem though—not yours. Especially Internet bullies who don’t know you at all.