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Does your Aspergers play a role in your political outlook?
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15 Mar 2023, 9:42 am

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I think my Aspergers does make me more inclined to be a Libertarian/Anarcho-Capitalist or Minarchist Republican.I consider myself Libertarian but I vote straight-ticket republican in all races since I was 18 because the Libertarian Party is not a viable party in terms of real political power.I dont really think I am a social conservative in the political sense of the word.

Like I believe in traditional values about some things but I want all drugs, prostitution, gambling,tobacco,alcohol,guns,weapons,fast food, caffeine and the sin industries to be legalized,extremely deregulated, and heavily commercialized and legal for everybody.I think we should exempt all businesses and non-profits from all taxes.I think we should exempt the top 20 percent in terms of wealth and income from all taxes.


I actually agree with a lot of that...but why do you think the bottom 80% should not be exempt from taxes but the top ones should? I would rather have the opposite, where the top 5-10% of income should pay moderate or even high taxes and the rest should be exempt, as far as taxes directly on income go.

Because I believe tax cuts for the rich would create more economic growth but I would be fine with a national sales tax like the fairtax or a national flat tax.I think millionaires and billionaires,6 figure earners,corporations,small business,non-profits,churches and pastors should all pay 0 taxes.


Do you believe counter-intuitively that the richer paying less or no taxes may encourage or incentivize less rich people to attain more wealth themselves? This is a unique take.

I just think more rich people would start more companies hire more people expand their companies if they paid less taxes.


Why would they hire more people than they need? Lower taxes won't make their business require more labour; only higher sales can do that.


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15 Mar 2023, 9:55 am

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Why would they hire more people than they need? Lower taxes won't make their business require more labour; only higher sales can do that.


Less taxes means more money in the hands of employers to do whatever they want with them. Most often than not employers, or anyone with savings for that matter, prefers to invest them. One of the ways to invest the money is to hire more people for better efficiency of your services. Better services offer an edge over competition. That is what my employer is doing right now for example. The buisiness went well for some time. Now he is hiring in order to maintain an edge over his competitors. His competitors are doing the same.



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15 Mar 2023, 9:58 am

Dengashinobi wrote:
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Why would they hire more people than they need? Lower taxes won't make their business require more labour; only higher sales can do that.


Less taxes means more money in the hands of employers to do whatever they want with them. Most often than not employers, or anyone with savings for that matter, prefers to invest them. One of the ways to invest the money is to hire more people for better efficiency of your services. Better services offer an edge over competition. That is what my employer is doing right now for example. The buisiness went well for some time. Now he is hiring in order to maintain an edge over his competitors. His competitors are doing the same.


I understand as a hypothetical they might choose to hire more people, but in practice they will only hire more people if they believe it will increase profits. If they don't believe that's the case, they will not hire more people.

People talk about tax cuts like they're a panacea to economic problems and frankly, it's ignorant. It's just an ideological claim; things don't work in the real world like their oversimplified forms work on paper.


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15 Mar 2023, 10:06 am

funeralxempire wrote:
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Why would they hire more people than they need? Lower taxes won't make their business require more labour; only higher sales can do that.


Less taxes means more money in the hands of employers to do whatever they want with them. Most often than not employers, or anyone with savings for that matter, prefers to invest them. One of the ways to invest the money is to hire more people for better efficiency of your services. Better services offer an edge over competition. That is what my employer is doing right now for example. The buisiness went well for some time. Now he is hiring in order to maintain an edge over his competitors. His competitors are doing the same.


I understand as a hypothetical they might choose to hire more people, but in practice they will only hire more people if they believe it will increase profits. If they don't believe that's the case, they will not hire more people.

People talk about tax cuts like they're a panacea to economic problems and frankly, it's ignorant. It's just an ideological claim; things don't work in the real world like their oversimplified forms work on paper.


Yes, they will invest in people for the goal of expanding their profit. Also employees will offer their services to an employer for the goal of higher earnings.That's how the market incentivises people.



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15 Mar 2023, 10:07 am

Dengashinobi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
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Why would they hire more people than they need? Lower taxes won't make their business require more labour; only higher sales can do that.


Less taxes means more money in the hands of employers to do whatever they want with them. Most often than not employers, or anyone with savings for that matter, prefers to invest them. One of the ways to invest the money is to hire more people for better efficiency of your services. Better services offer an edge over competition. That is what my employer is doing right now for example. The buisiness went well for some time. Now he is hiring in order to maintain an edge over his competitors. His competitors are doing the same.


I understand as a hypothetical they might choose to hire more people, but in practice they will only hire more people if they believe it will increase profits. If they don't believe that's the case, they will not hire more people.

People talk about tax cuts like they're a panacea to economic problems and frankly, it's ignorant. It's just an ideological claim; things don't work in the real world like their oversimplified forms work on paper.


Yes, they will invest in people for the goal of expanding their profit. Also employees will offer their services to an employer for the goal of higher earnings.That's how the market incentivises people.


You're moving away from the point.


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15 Mar 2023, 10:11 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
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Why would they hire more people than they need? Lower taxes won't make their business require more labour; only higher sales can do that.


Less taxes means more money in the hands of employers to do whatever they want with them. Most often than not employers, or anyone with savings for that matter, prefers to invest them. One of the ways to invest the money is to hire more people for better efficiency of your services. Better services offer an edge over competition. That is what my employer is doing right now for example. The buisiness went well for some time. Now he is hiring in order to maintain an edge over his competitors. His competitors are doing the same.


I understand as a hypothetical they might choose to hire more people, but in practice they will only hire more people if they believe it will increase profits. If they don't believe that's the case, they will not hire more people.

People talk about tax cuts like they're a panacea to economic problems and frankly, it's ignorant. It's just an ideological claim; things don't work in the real world like their oversimplified forms work on paper.


Yes, they will invest in people for the goal of expanding their profit. Also employees will offer their services to an employer for the goal of higher earnings.That's how the market incentivises people.


You're moving away from the point.


What is the point?



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15 Mar 2023, 10:22 am

Dengashinobi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
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I understand as a hypothetical they might choose to hire more people, but in practice they will only hire more people if they believe it will increase profits. If they don't believe that's the case, they will not hire more people.

People talk about tax cuts like they're a panacea to economic problems and frankly, it's ignorant. It's just an ideological claim; things don't work in the real world like their oversimplified forms work on paper.


Yes, they will invest in people for the goal of expanding their profit. Also employees will offer their services to an employer for the goal of higher earnings.That's how the market incentivises people.


You're moving away from the point.


What is the point?


That there's no inherent reason to assume tax cuts will result in an increase in hiring, at most there's a possibility.

More broadly:

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The results from all the tests discussed above point to publication bias in favour of reporting a significant growth-enhancing impact of corporate tax cuts. Once we account for publication bias, we are unable to detect an average effect of corporate taxes on growth that is statistically different from zero
From: Do corporate tax cuts boost economic growth?


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15 Mar 2023, 10:37 am

yikes, these hypercapitalist ideals genuinely scare me. Who in their right mind thinks inequality is a good thing?!


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15 Mar 2023, 10:38 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:

I understand as a hypothetical they might choose to hire more people, but in practice they will only hire more people if they believe it will increase profits. If they don't believe that's the case, they will not hire more people.

People talk about tax cuts like they're a panacea to economic problems and frankly, it's ignorant. It's just an ideological claim; things don't work in the real world like their oversimplified forms work on paper.


Yes, they will invest in people for the goal of expanding their profit. Also employees will offer their services to an employer for the goal of higher earnings.That's how the market incentivises people.


You're moving away from the point.


What is the point?


That there's no inherent reason to assume tax cuts will result in an increase in hiring, at most there's a possibility.

More broadly:

Quote:
The results from all the tests discussed above point to publication bias in favour of reporting a significant growth-enhancing impact of corporate tax cuts. Once we account for publication bias, we are unable to detect an average effect of corporate taxes on growth that is statistically different from zero
From: Do corporate tax cuts boost economic growth?


Yes surely there must be this or that source that admits that research shows "a significant growth-enhancing impact of corporate tax cuts", but which postulates that it's biased for some reason of the choise of the people who wrote the source. Of course 'these' publishers are not biased like the all 'other ones' who are.



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15 Mar 2023, 10:41 am

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yikes, these hypercapitalist ideals genuinely scare me. Who in their right mind thinks inequality is a good thing?!


Inequality is a fact of life. Wether one thinks that it's a good or bad thing it's irrelevant.



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15 Mar 2023, 10:42 am

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Yes surely there must be this or that source that admits that research shows "a significant growth-enhancing impact of corporate tax cuts", but which postulates that it's biased for some reason of the choise of the people who wrote the source. Of course 'these' publishers are not biased like the all 'other ones' who are.


In this context publication bias refers to positive impacts from tax cuts receiving more coverage.

Are you denying that this occurs?


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15 Mar 2023, 10:44 am

Dengashinobi wrote:
Readydaer wrote:
yikes, these hypercapitalist ideals genuinely scare me. Who in their right mind thinks inequality is a good thing?!


Inequality is a fact of life. Wether one thinks that it's a good or bad thing it's irrelevant.


Whether one believes anything should be done to address the problems resulting from inequality is a good indicator of whether or not one possesses basic human decency; or at the very least, how much double-think one can engage in.


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15 Mar 2023, 10:47 am

funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
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yikes, these hypercapitalist ideals genuinely scare me. Who in their right mind thinks inequality is a good thing?!


Inequality is a fact of life. Wether one thinks that it's a good or bad thing it's irrelevant.


Whether one believes anything should be done to address the problems resulting from inequality is a good indicator of whether or not one possesses basic human decency; or at the very least, how much double-think one can engage in.


Yes the left has decency and the right has not. Stop patting yourself on the back.



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15 Mar 2023, 11:02 am

Dengashinobi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
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yikes, these hypercapitalist ideals genuinely scare me. Who in their right mind thinks inequality is a good thing?!


Inequality is a fact of life. Wether one thinks that it's a good or bad thing it's irrelevant.


Whether one believes anything should be done to address the problems resulting from inequality is a good indicator of whether or not one possesses basic human decency; or at the very least, how much double-think one can engage in.


Yes the left has decency and the right has not. Stop patting yourself on the back.


my chum, that's literally just reality (the addressing of problems, not your oversimplification). If you would let a poor old lady get hit by a car because that gives you profits, you are objectively not good for society; 'evil'.

corporations do the same thing. Literally read any article about the human rights at Amazon warehouses.


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15 Mar 2023, 11:44 am

Dengashinobi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
Readydaer wrote:
yikes, these hypercapitalist ideals genuinely scare me. Who in their right mind thinks inequality is a good thing?!


Inequality is a fact of life. Wether one thinks that it's a good or bad thing it's irrelevant.


Whether one believes anything should be done to address the problems resulting from inequality is a good indicator of whether or not one possesses basic human decency; or at the very least, how much double-think one can engage in.


Yes the left has decency and the right has not. Stop patting yourself on the back.


I'm not sure the left always has decency, the ends justify the means can lead to some pretty nightmarish scenarios as well.

But, embracing selfishness as a virtue because the market will fix everything is a flat-out rejection of decency.


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15 Mar 2023, 12:24 pm

funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
funeralxempire wrote:
Dengashinobi wrote:
Readydaer wrote:
yikes, these hypercapitalist ideals genuinely scare me. Who in their right mind thinks inequality is a good thing?!


Inequality is a fact of life. Wether one thinks that it's a good or bad thing it's irrelevant.


Whether one believes anything should be done to address the problems resulting from inequality is a good indicator of whether or not one possesses basic human decency; or at the very least, how much double-think one can engage in.


Yes the left has decency and the right has not. Stop patting yourself on the back.


I'm not sure the left always has decency, the ends justify the means can lead to some pretty nightmarish scenarios as well.

But, embracing selfishness as a virtue because the market will fix everything is a flat-out rejection of decency.


Nobody says that the free market will fix everything. But it's the natural way humans exchange goods and services for mutual profit. And there is no better alternative. It's just a fact of life. Ignoring reality because it doesn't cater to our every want is the ignorant's virtue.