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04 Sep 2023, 11:19 am

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04 Sep 2023, 11:26 am

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I read it and hated it. There was a lot of action but very little character development.

I have heard of people who don't like it before. My Dad didn't like it. Me and my brother like it, however.

I found the action parts made up for anything lacking in other areas, for me, anyway.

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04 Sep 2023, 1:01 pm

Never read the book but didnt need to because its fifteen minutes of fame a few years ago was so pervasive.

I saw the movie. And saw docs on TV (the History Channel kinda kissed the best sellers rear, but most docs panned it as being a bunch of historic cow manure).

I dont think that its too much of a spoiler to say that ...its based on the premise that Jesus and Mary got married...Mary got pregnant before they crucified Christ, Mary fled to the Roman province of Gaul (modern France), had the kid, and started a whole bloodline, that linneage of descendents goes down to the present day. And concealing this bloodline has been part of a two thousand year conspiracy involving the Knights Templers ...who morphed into the Freemasons, factions within the Vatican, and then....the story gets really crazy. :lol:

What can one say? Its a fun ride.

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04 Sep 2023, 1:07 pm

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What can one say? Its a fun ride.

Mary MAGDALENE!!

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04 Sep 2023, 1:11 pm

Yes. That Mary.

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04 Sep 2023, 1:24 pm

I could do without people named Magdalene or Magdalena.

I never read the Bible so I wouldn't even understand the references.

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04 Sep 2023, 1:51 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

I could do without people named Magdalene or Magdalena.

I never read the Bible so I wouldn't even understand the references.

Not asking you to be religious, but

YOU...the great high brow literary expert of WP doesnt know enough from the Bible as literature to know who Mary Magdelene was? She was basicially the only female something-like-a-disciple of Christ. And your supposed to be a feminist too!

I am disappointed in you :cry:

Actually scholars, theologians, and historians, have been debating about who she was and what exactly her relationship to Christ was for two thousand years. But she figures so often in rock operas and in movies that you dont have to have "read the Bible" to know she was that lady who hung out with Christ and his 12 buddies.

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04 Sep 2023, 2:19 pm

I know who Mary Magdalene was.

I was referring to a different woman named Magdalene who is related to my trauma.

Thanks for the compliment though lol.

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04 Sep 2023, 2:24 pm

Magdalene Laundries.Awful.

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04 Sep 2023, 5:06 pm

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What I know about the Freemasons is:

If you're blood related to a Freemason, you are one. You can also get an invitation to become one if you save the life of one.

Contrary to popular belief, a Freemason can tell a non-freemason if they're a Freemason. BUT, that is all they can tell them.

If a Freemason ends up in court and another Freemason ends up on the jury, the Freemason in the jury is obliged to help his fellow Freemason to get out of being declared Guilty.

They have a peculiar handshake.

All Freemasons must believe in god.

Good call on the God thing - yes, they don't accept atheists. Or at least, generally the ones that don't accept women don't accept people who don't believe in a supreme being.

There are, apparently, some groups (the "continental" Freemasons) who do. In the UK there are two lodges dedicated just to women... and over 7,000 just for men.

I don't think it's as exclusive as you think - these days, at least, they recruit any theistic man who pays them the membership fees (apparently about £200 a year in the UK).

I also don't think the jury thing is true at all. While there are some secret things, that seems to mostly refer to symbolism rather than secret advantages.

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04 Sep 2023, 5:50 pm

IsabellaLinton wrote:

Can someone please explain to me what Freemasons are, politically?

Whatever each one chooses to be, although the tendency is toward conserving both money and traditional rituals.

IsabellaLinton wrote:

What's the big deal . . . ?

The big deal is that we do not openly advertise our activities or what goes on in our meetings. This opens the door to some of the wildest speculations you can imagine -- most of which are nowhere near the truth.

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. . . is it bad to be a Mason?

It is BORING to be a Freemason. After the initiations, all we do is sit around and try to decide which charity to support and what kinds of sandwiches to serve at the next meeting.

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04 Sep 2023, 6:20 pm

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I always assumed the jury thing was about brotherhood.

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06 Sep 2023, 3:31 am

Is it true that masons paddle each other's behinds as part of a masonic ritual?

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06 Sep 2023, 8:23 pm

RetroGamer87 wrote:

Is it true that masons paddle each other's behinds as part of a masonic ritual?

No.

That's a trowel, based on 1000-year old designs, and used by bricklayers to spread mortar. It is symbolic (as most masonic tools are). Just as every bricklayer must work hard to build sturdy walls that are both straight and true, so too must the Freemason work hard to build a sturdy character that is also both straight and true.

Or something like that. There is a LOT of symbolism in Masonic rites, and it is easy to get the meanings confused.

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14 Sep 2023, 2:44 am

My stepdad's father and brother were active Freemasons. They didn't believe that my stepdad could pass the initiation. He proved them wrong, however, and got in easily. But he then snubbed them and refused to have anything to do with them. I've tried to get him to talk about his initiation and other things about the Freemasons but he clams up.

A few years ago my mum and I were invited to a mini market that just happened to be outside the Masonic Lodge here in town. Mum asked if we could look inside and we were allowed. There were a lot of pictures of Freemasons dressed formally. In the middle of the main room was a black and white patterned floor, like a chess board. For some reason I knew I shouldn't walk on it. Other than that, there wasn't much I remember about it.

I've never heard of the women's version of the Freemasons before, that's interesting.

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14 Sep 2023, 8:28 am

One of the things I got a laugh out of was driving through central Ohio through a town called Utica (Rt 13 just north of Newark which is east of Columbus) and right down town there's this three-story building at the end of the strip with a sign that said 'Licking Lodge 291'. I get that it's the county of Licking, Ohio but it still raised visuals that I couldn't unvisualize.

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