Alien Invasion

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In Oregon, our minimum wage is $7.80/hr, which is pretty damn good (best in the nation). There are also plenty of people willing to work so if nothing else they can have spending money. Plenty of US citizens are also willing to do grunt work. My dad does construction, and one of my friends is a drywaller. We wouldn't have such a "dire need" for immigrants if we'd just make the unemployed take these jobs (or threaten to cut their welfare and unemployment if they don't).

I'm all for making legal immigration easier. We are, after all, a nation of immigrants. But I take a tough stance on illegals- kick 'em out, put them in a database that automatically disqualifies them from EVER seeking legal US citizenship or even the ability to travel here. Under the current system, they don't even have to obey the same laws as ordinary Americans, and some Mexican hate groups are openly calling for genocide against both whites and blacks. That's not the kind of people we need- our government already has enough nut jobs.
Also no more nonsense about "jobs Americans won't do." Such jobs don't exist. Americans won't work a job that can't support themselves and their families. Pay well, and you'll find workers. And no excuses about consumers wanting cheaper prices- let the execs and CEOs have lower salaries, let the stockholders get slightly lower returns. Or raise the prices some- I'm sure there would be strong market demand in this country for American goods. In the long run more Americans with well-paying jobs will be a lot better for the economy than a rich executive and millions of dirt-poor Mexicans.

I'll agree to that about "jobs americans won't do". Right now me and my family are struggling to keep our bills up, joe jobs don't pay enough. And I know there are many more families out there in this situation.
Most mexicans work construction, a job which pays starting at $10 an hour, dude I would kill for a paycheck like that.

Sounds like a recipe for hyperinflation which is very close to how Mexico's economy works.

A better idea is helping Mexico to become a prosperous nation of it's own. That would mean American and Mexican officials sitting down at a table and discussing what could be done to improve Mexico's economy.
But in all honesty we really fix our economy first.

I doubt Mexico's government will listen. They're the biggest group encouraging illegal immigration into the USA.

(https://www.cia.gov/library/publication ... .html#Econ)

Mexico's inflation rate is only 3.2%. That is nowhere near "hyper". The only country right now with hyper inflation is Zimbabwe, which is approaching 5,000% (http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/progr ... ry_1.shtml), and it's not for the reasons aforementioned.

Yeah hyper is the wrong word. It has averaged and insane amount
over the last few decades. Its clearly no economic utopia.

So what country is an economic utopia? Let's all move there and get jobs.

Still seems to be better than a lot of places.

Inflation is caused by the Fed printing off counterfeit Monopoly money. It is not caused by Americans being able to feed their families. Ignore what any politician tells you about a tradeoff between inflation/unemployment- look up the numbers for the US economy, you don't see any correlation between the two at all.

Well if they refuse to meet us in the middle, then we'd have no choice but to declare war on them. Although right now we can't really do that because going into another war would only further our nations instability. I would say that for the time being we need to stengthen border control, not just on land but also in the waters (some of them might be getting in on rafts). We need to set up immigration enforcement ---batallions and barracks---- lining the border....... Damn America is screwed either way. I mean if we were to pull our troops out of Iraq and a civil war erupted out there we'd be getting hit with the bill, but if we don't we'll continue funnelling more money that we can't afford to keep this war going..... Right now illegal immigration is a bigger concern, as much as I hate war and I am not a racist in any way, we need the economic means to go to war with Mexico if need be, so that we can come to an agreement on the border situation.... I mean by all means I'd hate having to go to war with our neighbor but it might would have to come to that. But we don't have the economic means.... Meanwhile thousands more illegals are escalating the problem, 3,000,000 a year.... Dude our leaders are turning American into a 3rd world country, think about it theyr rich either way, reguardless if we have food to eat or not. It's a war on the lower-middle class.

agreed but that will never happen. anything the governemnt gets itself into is almost always worse off than before. besides mexico isnt intrested in making its nation better for its people.

Not just Mexico, but El Salvador, Honduras, etc. The nations are happy with the arrangement. Money earned in the USA, sent to families to be spent in countries of origin is profitable for the countries of origin. They have no reason to stop it, they're benefiting too much.

I know right, like their governments don't give a damn about their people, Bush is good friends with the Mexican president Vincinte Fox (if I spelled his name right), yet people still find it too much of a leap to think our government would try to do bad to us for their own benefit. People are an absurdly stupid species....... I claim no affiliation with the human race because honestly I've risen beyond most humans.

To put it more accurately, if an alien race from another world, who were far more evolved and advanced than humans, far more rational and intelligent, came down and decided to wipe out the disease of humanity for the good of the universe, but decided me (and perhaps a select few others) could survive if we went with them, chances are I'd go along with them. Some might say I'm turning my back on humans, but I wasn't aware that humankind ever gave a flying f**k about me anyways (or anyone but their individual selves for that matter).... I've been completely disillusioned by the barbaric reality of this species, they are so unbelievably stupid it should be a crime.