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Which group is weirder?
Brown immigrants who turn MAGA? 19%  19%  [ 3 ]
LBGTQ Americans who support HAMAS? 25%  25%  [ 4 ]
Both equally hypocritical 25%  25%  [ 4 ]
Neither are hypocritical 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Other 6%  6%  [ 1 ]
Dont know 13%  13%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 16

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03 Aug 2024, 4:42 am

naturalplastic wrote:
JD Vance, whose wife is a brown skinned Asian Indian practicing Hindu was just picked as VP by Trump (champion of American Christian Nationalists) who believe in "replacement theory". And then there is Vivek Ramaswamy - a practicing Hindu son of brown immigrants from South Asia who gleefully and dutifully kissed the asses of the White nationalist MAGA movement ...only to still get rejected. And told by Ann Coulter to his face that she could "never vote for him" because of his background.

On the other hand ...there are American Progressive members of LBGTQ community who take the side of Palestine against Israel in the current war...in theory thats not the same thing a favoring HAMAS...but in practice it DOES mean that. And HAMAS oppresses and kill LBGTQ folks....while Israel has a pretty good human rights record toward the LBGTQ community.

So ...which group is wierder. Brown skinned folks joining a White supremist anti immigrant political movement ...or LBGTQ folks supporting an anti LBGTQ regime? Or does politics always "make strange bedfellows"?


I mean not supporting genocide of a certain people does not mean you favor one belief over the the other, just that you don't support genocide and I myself don't believe in genocide.


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04 Aug 2024, 11:57 pm

techstepgenr8tion wrote:
I'm guessing there are a lot of regionalized and even ethnic ways to cook a Christmas or Thanksgiving dinner in the US and plenty of those (particularly Christmas) would be mutations on old-world European traditions. For baseball - that looks like the ethnic makeup of Suicidal Tendencies, ie. just about everyone's represented.

I've got a soft spot for the US I grew up in where everyone's just stoked to see talented people crush it at whatever they're doing and if they're an ethnic minority that's cool too. I sometimes worry that Promethean spark is getting addled a bit by the Harrison Bergeron mentality.


I never thought of myself as particularly patriotic or as having a rose-tinted view of my country (and I don't like sports) yet what you've written here basically matches my idea of the positive side of America. There seems to be a trend of people opposed to that idea at the moment, at least on social media. We are now "supposed to" admire people for what group they belong to, not their individual talents and accomplishments. Saying that what group they belong to is unimportant is considered unacceptable, even though that used to be THE progressive message. (Or I thought it was). And many people don't even like to see fictional characters "crush it" anymore. They side with the villains because the villains typically lose and that means they're secretly the misunderstood martyred heroes.

I'm reminded of this song from "Ragtime: The Musical" about everyone being accepted in baseball, much to the comic annoyance of the privileged (again, by the word's former definition, not the current one) Upper Middle Class character Father:

https://youtu.be/lGkkmd2g2OU?si=dULubgBmHdUikiwB

Also -- a "Harrison Bergeron" reference! :) That's a rarity in the endless Dystopian sea of "1984" references. With my sensitivity to high-pitched noises and the many things in our society make them, I'm often reminded of the short story, where speakers were put into intelligent people's ears to interrupt their train of thought.