Are You A Heathen

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The elephant?

Trunky want a bun?

I just realised my spelling was all over the place!

Hot in...
So hot in herre...
So hot in...
I was like, good gracious ass bodacious
Flirtatcious, tryin to show faces
Lookin for the right time to shoot my steam (you know)
Lookin for the right time to flash them keys
Then um I'm leavin, please believin
Me and the rest of my heathens

Nice one
You're spitting bars
No tambourine
You're a mean machine
You're a heathen
Nothing to believe in
Stick in your bible
And smoke it like tribal
Go viral

I am a believer and am a Christian.

I think God created everybody and we all carry a spark of his spirit.

I think if you do not have a faith or another faith you can still be a good human being. You can have good values and follow moral codes. I have known for quite some time people like this. For me not believing would give me a purposeless life.
There are some stories of people who were called by God of other faiths or no faith and got their calling and they very good human beings who would put some Christians of long duration to shame with their zeal/passion and humility.

Yeah and that must give you comfort

I'm glad you have your faith RachObi

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Yes I like the idea that Jesus wouldn't have been too hard on "heathens" who were kinder than some believers are. Scripture reckons he cured that lame bloke because his mates lowered him through the roof of the house he was in to get his attention, and he said their faith had healed him. Now those blokes might have been thinking "this probably won't work, but we've got no better plan," so this faith requirement might not be so much a matter of what you believe. That story and that thought about it made me feel a lot better when I was a kid and the teacher had me worried that I'd not go to heaven because I suspected scripture had a lot of lies in it.

I don't see myself as exactly a heathen because I think it's one of those terms that only makes sense from a Christian perspective, so to me it's pretty meaningless. I'd just say I was secular. I gather it's been used in the past as a pejorative label but these days not so much. Your soap-box chap sounds to me like he was a bit backward looking. He might have just meant it as a neutral thing, but my intuition tells me he was one of those nasty old farts who wants everybody to thing that unbelievers have got something the matter with them. People on soap boxes aren't usually very objective and nuanced in their output, and if it's not objective and nuanced, it's either propaganda rubbish or it's art. I can forgive it if it's art. Otherwise it can get me cross.

My robot friend DeepAI doesn't think I can be rightly called a heathen, because I don't "engage with or identify with the cultural or spiritual aspects of pagan or heathen traditions." Apparently you have to have at least a glimmer of superstitious belief in your mix or you don't qualify. So it looks pretty clear that your soapbox chappie was stretching the truth, which in my experience is common with soapbox chappies.

So it looks like I can confidently say no I'm not a heathen. I took part in a hippie pagan ritual or two once, and might do it again just for fun if I thought it was harmless, but I've been to church more often than I've done that kind of thing, yet it doesn't make me a Christian, it makes me a bit of a people pleaser and somebody who loves a singalong and is curious about what they get up to.

Does anybody think there's anything in this "you're praying and worshipping God whenever you do anything with loving care and kindness" thing? I do that here and there but it doesn't feel worshippy. A Baptist Christian said it the other day because it was National Prayer Day and they hadn't done their bit literally with the hands-together-eyes-closed thing, but they said that covered it so they'd complied really. I thought it was a bit of a fudge.

I've been on my own most of my life so I'm not ashamed to tell people that I've had a good relationship with something spiritual
It's been a matter of survival for me
If it wasn't for my belief in something I would undoubtedly be dead
But I don't subscribe to any religion it's just a personal thing

It's my Alien