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Triangular_Trees
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27 Sep 2007, 9:23 am

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Have you ever considered that studies were done by these companies that proved men were more cost efficient? Women get pregnant, many companies don't want that... it's not about "male domination" it's about capitalism and the bottom line.


Considering I've researched these companies, I can ensure you thats not the case. Furthermore, its also illegal to discriminate on that basis and these were all companies that had clearly stated anti-discriminatory policies (some even sent their personnel directors to be retrained when they found out how their companies fared in the study). Also, men today are just as likely to take off for their wifes pregnancy, to care for a newborn, as women are. Quite a few major companies guarantee men a 6 month leave of absence in the even of a newbirth.

i do recommend you research this a bit though, since your comments make you appear to be completely clueless about such things. its alwys best to do your homework before putting forth an argument :D . Do you have access to any research databases?



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29 Sep 2007, 4:04 pm

From my experience, anti-discrimination laws (in the USA) are a farce.

If you look through here:

http://www.eeoc.gov/federal/decisions.html

you'll find that that vast majority of appelate decisions are against the victim.



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10 Feb 2009, 4:36 pm

I would like a male forum where we can talk about what we find sexy without getting called chauvanistic.

Ladies, if you can find a man that you can get emotionally close to on the rational temperment spectrum, INTP in particular (arhcitect type), he's more likely than any other man to treat you like an equal.


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10 Feb 2009, 4:39 pm

I think I've asked for the same thing but was explained that since we're generally so stupid that almost any old deep pit at the site would be a good place for us to talk about 'man stuff' so we are relagated to the so-called 'adult forum' with everyother teenager in the universe.


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10 Feb 2009, 4:45 pm

The adult forum, because I've never heard of chicks that watched pown.


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10 Feb 2009, 6:20 pm

You must be from another planet.


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12 Feb 2009, 6:30 am

Triangular_Trees wrote:
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Have you ever considered that studies were done by these companies that proved men were more cost efficient? Women get pregnant, many companies don't want that... it's not about "male domination" it's about capitalism and the bottom line.


Considering I've researched these companies, I can ensure you thats not the case. Furthermore, its also illegal to discriminate on that basis and these were all companies that had clearly stated anti-discriminatory policies (some even sent their personnel directors to be retrained when they found out how their companies fared in the study). Also, men today are just as likely to take off for their wifes pregnancy, to care for a newborn, as women are. Quite a few major companies guarantee men a 6 month leave of absence in the even of a newbirth.

i do recommend you research this a bit though, since your comments make you appear to be completely clueless about such things. its alwys best to do your homework before putting forth an argument :D . Do you have access to any research databases?


I still think your proposition of male domination is highly dubious, job selection bias, is not "male domination". Companies prefer men for certain jobs, just like you wouldn't hire someone without the proper education for a white collar job, and just like you wouldn't hire and ugly person for advertising purposes, so many businesses prefer men... this is not "male domination", this is businesses exercising there right to run their businesses as they see fit so they do not harm the bottom line.

It's no secret in the corporate world that HR (human resources) discriminates, they get more resume's then they know what to do with and it's no surprise some get culled, alot of it is now automated as well, so I really question the viability of such "studies".



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17 Feb 2009, 1:11 pm

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Actually there are tons of studies that prove North America is just such a land. One of the most telling was done a few years ago by a research team in New York, they sent out identical resumes to companies that were advertising open positions. Resumes with male names were something like 3 times more likely than the identical resumes with female names to receive a call to come in for an interview. The gap was geven wider between traditional anglo and traditional minority names

Be that as it may (I don't have the research to deny or confirm your claim), there are far worse things that could prevent one from getting hired. If I wanted to be a teacher, and teach younger children, what do you think the chances are that I, as a male, would get hired? "All men are rapists" is an idea which has never truly died in our society, despite how false and sexist it is. That is why, often, if a man is abused by his wife or girlfriend he is arrested or denied shelter.