Women- did you ever want to be a Cub Scout?

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13 Jan 2008, 7:22 am

I was in the scouts in Australia it is unisex there is also brownies and guides for girls as well. I was in brownies and then went onto scouts as opposed to guides.



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14 Jan 2008, 2:00 pm

My mom tells me that I made it well known that I wanted to be a boy scout rather than a girl scout, because the boy scouts got to do much cooler things than we did. Of course, I was also the girl who got the brownie uniform and said, "Well, I guess it's okay, but does it come in any other colors?"


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21 Jan 2008, 11:31 am

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Hope no one else thinks I'm too weird. But just wondering if other gals ever felt like I did? I was so envious when all the boys in 2nd grade were asked to join the Scouts. Then once a week they would come dressed in their cool Cub Scout shirts, yellow neckerchiefs and caps so they could attend their scouting meeting after school. I was always asking them what all their badges meant. I was totally envious because Girl Scouts at the time sucked and all they did was learn how to bake biscuits, sell Girl Scout cookies and learn housekeeping skills while the boys learned outdoors skills and how to build things.

Then I saw a grown woman on an old Nickolodean tv show that would wear Cub Scout clothing. Isn't that the ultimate sign of resisting society by wearing a uniform women aren't suppose to be allowed to wear?! Well as an adult I am obsessed a little with collecting Scout badges as you can buy them online. I still want a Cub Scout or Webolos uniform.

I wish there was such thing as Scouting for Adults in other words organized camping and outdoor activities where you get to wear a uniform. Has anyone else ever wanted this? Its not so simple as -so you're an adult now so just go camping with your friends as I have no friends who want to do that sort of activity. Maybe because its a guy thing?? I have many female acquaintances but they want to do little more than the occassional card game or going to movies with me.


Hell yes there is! It's called the army and I LOVE it in here...uniform all the time; and we get WEAPONS. No cub scout can diss that :^)

Army's better, HOOAH??! !


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23 Jan 2008, 12:53 am

I wanted to be a Cub Scout because they did cooler stuff.

Now that I am an adult to a son and two girls. I can't wait to get my girls in to Boy Scouts when they get older (Explores and Venture).

I have been a leader in both. The training you get as an adult leader is much better with Boy Scouts. The money you ear is yours. It is annoying that you sale cookies in Febuary (your biggest money maker) and they want most of it in Aug.(or what ever the date is) and you start with nothing every year unless you go through hoops to keep the money or you are dishonest.

I really can go on about the Girls Scouts I am so disappointed. I think the progam could be so much better but they don't have the retention for adult leaders like the Boy Scouts so they loose valuable knowledge.

Plus how they have the girls divide up. The early years it makes since. But once you get ot Cadets and Seniors there needs to be one group of multiage Girls to teach better leadership. Plus to push for the goal of a Goal star. To many girls/parents don't know about it or how it could be benificial.

I agree with the sex seperation but I think the Girl Scouts could and should learn from the Boy Scouts.

I am very frustrated with comments from women that girls don't want to do XYZ. They do! I am tired of the women that "wus" out. I don't want to stay in a tent all weekend, so they don't give the girls those oppurtinities. This is women disadvantaging girls :(



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24 Jan 2008, 9:26 pm

I never wanted to do any extra-curricular stuff. My mom forced me into dance classes, and I didn't want to do that either. I do remember though I thought that being a Brownie meant you would get to eat brownies. :lol:


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20 Dec 2008, 12:06 am

I did girl scouts when I was six. We did arts and activities and sang songs and I still have the book. I still have my girl scout vest and the face and pigtails on the hanger I made.

I can remember thinking I had to get rid of it because I outgrew it but my mother told me "No Beth you keep it" and I said it was too small and she said it was my girl scout vest and it's something I keep and she hung it up. I learned it was now for me to use as a display.



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20 Dec 2008, 1:30 pm

I was in Brownies but didn't really like it. I told my mother about it and told her to register me (since all the girls at school were talking about it and I didn't want to miss out on anything) but she waited until I was seven (Brownies starts age 7 but there was a year's waiting list) so I didn't get in until I was 8. Then there was this pressure to move on to Guides at the right age but with a year less Brownies under my belt than the others. I resisted (didn't like being rushed), got as many badges as I could while I was still in Brownies, and dropped out.

The thing I disliked most about Brownies was the social aspects of it - everyone was so talky, and that was not my thing. I refused to go to camp, since I didn't need to, since we had a cottage and I spent all summer out of doors anyways. But it was my idea to join in the first place - I didn't want to not know what was going on - I wanted access to all information I could get that my peers had access to (I was a spy?).

Never wanted to be a cub/scout. My brother tried cubs and hated it (he's gay, they're boisterous little boys - not his thing).

As an adult, if you like the outdoors/camping, there's geology, forestry, park service, and hiking/mountaineering clubs. I hike on my own, but don't like sleeping out at night, so I just do day hikes. Some day I'll probably have my own cabin in the woods, like my parents have.



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21 Dec 2008, 5:37 pm

My sister wanted to dress up as a boy scout for halloween. All of the women's boy scout uniforms say things like "troop 69" and "sex scout"... really hard to find just a normal boy scout uniform for women :?


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07 Jan 2009, 6:48 pm

I always envived my brother who went to cubs, he learnt such cool things that I wanted to learn. So after having it explained to me that I couldn't join with my brother because we differed on a chromosome, parents signed me up for brownies.

Three years of bordom. About the most exciting thing was 10 minutes of compass playing. Then got back to make useless pretty things / bake stuff and I swear there was something about knitting and flowers in there somewhere.

Added to that, I was the 'special' member of the group. The one who all the adults pretend is a part of the group, but really was just let in for show. Got no hassle from the girls, we played together fine and they made sure to include me. The adults however were a different story, we were arranged in different status according to how long we'd been there, seen by our 1 / 2 /3 year bages.

The higher the status and the older you were, were used to decide who would be a 'leader' and lead the rest of a group around this inane path. Two years in, and barely a badge in sight while others were tossed them for no reason. Shortly after when I should have got my second year badge a much younger girl who had been there hardly a year was appointed leader when as I was good at calculating these things, I was next. Everyone else in the group, my age/badge equals and less had been leader and I was so nervous as after all the wait I was the only one it could possibly be.

My friend noticed this and complained that I was older so it should have been my turn. The leader's response was to say that that was true but the other girl had been there longer, pointing out the girl's 1 year badge, ignoring further arguments.

Afterwards a fair amount of 'not for my ears' conversations went on and a couple of weeks later after over a year of stalling I was honerarly (as every badge was given) given my first and second year badges at the same time. Never did get half the other badges I completed though :roll:

Scary when adults are the ones discriminating against the kids.


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08 Jan 2009, 2:24 pm

I think the Girl Scouts, Brownies and Daisies have outlived their usefulness as organizations. In todays world teaching girls to be Miss Suzy Homemaker is pointless because most females do want a career as adults and most women find they have to work regardless. Not to mention there is a low marriage rate so its not like little girls ALL still dream of having a husband, cooking for him and serving him like a slave.

I think more than ever there needs to be a Scouting organization that teaches girls survival and camping skills, even mechanical and repair skills so they can do routine maintenance on their cars. The Boy Scouts teach useful skills that have sometimes saved the lives of the members. If a person gets stranded in a snowstorm they need survival knowledge they aren't going to knit their way out of an avalanche.

The problem is the Girl Scouts are run by a bunch of hoidy toidy old hags whose only interest is makeup and hair coloring. They don't represent the interest & desire for knowledge of modern day young women. Perhaps the best solution is to have the Sissy Scouts for all that want to learn girly-girl stuff and let it be open to girls and gay boys and then have the Adventure Scouts for all the boys and girls who want to camp and build things.

I wish they had an adult scouting group though! Oh and sorry the Army is not the answer to that. I don't want to go to some dirty third world country and kill people. I want to learn to hunt, build fires without matches, camp and build treehouses and go sailing.



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13 Jan 2009, 5:39 pm

The girl scouts ganged up on me, beat me into a pile of leaves and stuffed them down my shirt while I cried. Girl scouts was stupid anyway, the cookies weren't that good, and we didn't get knives. I really wanted a knife, so I asked if I could go to my brother's cub scouts meetings. They didn't really let me participate and I didn't get to build an awesome race car. I loved that knife, and I engraved my name into it. I took the knife to my friend's house in 3rd grade so we could use it to make things out of sticks and cardboard in the woods, but her mother found it and sent me home.
My dad and I were involved in this awesome father-daughter group called Indian Princesses. You went on camping trips with your dad and a group of other dads and daughters from your area. You learned to build fires, tell stories around the campfire, build shelters, go hiking and play on obstacle courses. They also did useful arts and crafts like candle making.

Another good program for kids is something called Colonial Camp, where you spend the day at an old colonial house with no electricity and learn how people lived back then. I liked sweeping the dirt floor... the counselors thought I was really strange for doing that while the other kids ran around outside.



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23 Jan 2009, 1:12 am

i was in the guides for a while. with a good group of people.

i remember going camping and cooking various dishes (cooking sweets was good fun).

i remember having to make things out of wood and ropes (like a tripod and a rubbish bin , even a kitchen sink sort of thing).
we went abseiling quite a few times, rock climbing, swimming, horseriding.

we did some fun things. It wasn't a training to be a home maker type of thing.
I also remember us doing fundraising activites for various causes.
i also remember learning a bit of first aid as well.



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23 Jan 2009, 1:13 am

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23 Jan 2009, 2:57 am

My daughter was in cub-scouts because they meet up near where I live. I become a cub-scout assistant but being continuosly sexually harrassed by the cub scout leader - I left. One night he walked my daughter back. I didn't realise, I forgot the times had changes. He said he slipt her a note. I asked her later. He didn't give her any note. He was so perv in what he said and on occasions if no one was around, tried to touch me.



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23 Jan 2009, 7:14 pm

I was a Brownie (Gnome Division). I quite enjoyed it but I'll never forget failing the intitiation ceremony, which qute frankly, is impossible to do. During the intitiation you're supposed to look at this mirror on the floor and you're asked what you see. The natural answer is "myself". I said "nothing", probably because I was expecting to see myself but with magical Brownie effects in the mirror or something. I can't even remember why I said this as I read beforehand what you were supposed to say. It got to the point where they had to prompt me with the answer.

I was a Guide briefly but I left because I was telling myself that everyone had an older sister there (which was true) and I didn't have anyone there with me. But it was probably more like I didn't know how to negotiate these new social situations.



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13 Feb 2009, 11:49 am

I was also a Brownie. I didn't like it because the badges were silly. I wanted to learn how to camp and I wanted to learn survival skills and things like that. My brother (10 yrs my senior) had been a Cub Scout. I used to wear his uniform to play in because I couldn't actually "be" a Cub Scout.

Pretty lame, eh?

I think girls can be Cub Scouts today..... Don't quote me on that, however.