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Whilst I agree with many of snake321's points, I disagree that opinions should be silenced in the name of progress. People should be allowed to state obviously FALSE opinions, but once they start getting racist, discriminatory, and harassing, that's when they should be told to shut up or get arrested.

Abusive, fascist protests have no place in civilized society, but people should be allowed to state individual arguments and debate freely so long as they stick to civilized discussion with regards to such matters.

Some freedoms are best denied.

So by that definition both right and left wing extremists should be told to shut up. Anyone advocating for god in politics (right), or anyone advocating systematic political scape-goating of whites/males/christians/heterosexuals (left). They are both discriminative, racist, and oppressive.

I think people need to actually make an effort to solve our problems, break from this left/right indoctrination and stand up to large corporations, bring the power back to the people, and bring sentient thought back to society. People should be free, if I did not agree with freedom I would not support standing up to big industry. But people need to awaken.

Also, I'm purposely ignoring AG, he isn't worth arguing with, he is a f*****g narcisistic, self centered, heartless, evil, sociopath. The guy defends slavery, why anyone listens to anything he says is beyond me.
Do you know who think like he does? The elite, the Skull and Bones, the Illuminati, big industry (which he vehemently defends).... It's called being a psychopath, people with that mentality have ran our world far too long. Guess what, they also believe in slavery. Who knows, maybe AG thinks he can be accepted into the skull and bones or something, but in reality they'd just off his aspie arse.

AG, I'll give him one thing, he's cunning, witty, so are the NWO. If AG was rich and NT he'd sound like a great candidate.

Hey, I am learning to ingratiate myself to the powers that be for a reason. Heck, I can also be a pretty good public speaker, and am pretty clever. My big give away on aspieness ends up being my insane rationalism and the fact that I don't normally care to dress myself well, but if I just dressed up nice... well, only the world would know what would happen.

well, I was wondering if he might actually be nihilist.

He'll openly admit to being a nihilist, the NWO are nihilists, nihilists are very cunning and witty, very well spoken, but theyr totally self centered and psychotic.

Of coarse, most nihilist will admit to being nihilist, unless they've got an underlying reason not to, such as to gain someone's trust to exploit.

Only a total nihilist can make a case for justifying slavery, a nihilist like AG or like GW Bush or Hillary Clinton, or any of the other NWO goons.

Intensely skeptical. True nihilism has internal contradictions that nihilists do not really escape... unless they have secret methods.

You are just speaking of moral nihilists. I fit more in the category of being a skeptic. If I were a nihilist I would have used the Is-Ought problem and argument from queerness to argue that the very concept of morality is an impossibility.

.... well, unless of course I was trying to allow for some form of morality to exist in order to exploit it. Really though, I think the actual philosophical position you argue against is egoism, not nihilism. Nihilists have no reason to action, egoists have a reason to action and that reason is self-interest.

Not true, past societies made arguments for this, and sources of morality from our past also do not argue against slavery. In fact, the Christian bible, surely not a nihilist document as their preachers screech against the nihilism of postmodernism and the world, does not argue against slavery but rather puts codes for how it should work.

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For what it's worth, --if-- I have a soul, I will fight beyond my body and life to stop this tyranny that lies ahead, --if-- scientifically speaking a soul exists, you can't stop me from liberating the earth.

Not necessarily. It is very easy to stop people, and do you think that the NWO would really fear one person or their soul? I mean, the NWO is better prepared than all of its foes.

You do know that I will die before I give up my freedom, or before I give up on my fellow human beings who DESERVE the right to life, liberty, and the persuit of happiness and inalienable rights that were granted to my nation's people in the constitution of the United States of America and the Decleration of Independence, and the Bill of Rights. I would never give up my freedom..

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Ok. Actually, what is sort of funny is that your cherished documents of freedom were set up to maintain the power of an American upperclass. They became more democratic over time. The fact that you will die before you give up makes this issue easier for all of us though; just kill quickly and don't attempt to brainwash.

And if you think theyr gonna spare you or take you in as one of them, then you need to get off the pipe. I'm supposing that is your "logic"?

I doubt your "upper class" AG