loudmouth wrote:
I'll be voting for Ron Paul if he’ll still in the running by presidential election.
John McCain: how can you be for the war on terror if you are for amnesty? that’s allot of people getting into the country without any citizenship.
Hillary: She's san absolute elitist when leaving a plane Chelsea was talking to a Marine and she walked up to Chelsea telling her "We don't Talk to the little people."
Obama: He admits his "church" greatly shaped his views if that’s true he a complete afro-fanatic communist.
I believe Obama was referring to his views of religion more than his views of federal policy, as he was a near atheist before civil service work in Chicago, where the churches he worked with to help with a massive job loss due to a steel factory shutting down converted him.
Here is an excerpt from one of his speeches (given to evangelical Christians) that explains his view on the matter.
"Given the increasing diversity of America’s population, the dangers of sectarianism have never been greater. Whatever we once were, we are no longer just a Christian nation; we are also a Jewish nation, a Muslim nation, a Buddhist nation, a Hindu nation, and a nation of nonbelievers.
And even if we did have only Christians within our borders, whose Christianity would we teach in the schools? James Dobson’s, or Al Sharpton’s? Which passages of Scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Levitacus, which suggests slavery is ok and that eating shellfish is abomination? How about Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith? Or should we just stick to the Sermon on the Mount – a passage so radical that it’s doubtful that our Defense Department would survive its application?
This brings me to my second point. Democracy demands that the religiously motivated translate their concerns into universal, rather than religion-specific, values. It requires that their proposals be subject to argument, and amenable to reason. I may be opposed to abortion for religious reasons, but if I seek to pass a law banning the practice, I cannot simply point to the teachings of my church or evoke God’s will. I have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths, including those with no faith at all.
This may be difficult for those who believe in the inerrancy of the Bible, as many evangelicals do. But in a pluralistic democracy, we have no choice. Politics depends on our ability to persuade each other of common aims based on a common reality. It involves the compromise, the art of the possible. At some fundamental level, religion does not allow for compromise. It insists on the impossible. If God has spoken, then followers are expected to live up to God’s edicts, regardless of the consequences. To base one’s life on such uncompromising commitments may be sublime; to base our policy making on such commitments would be a dangerous thing."
Personally I found Obama's forthrightness in this speech and others refreshing and inspiring, and I have found through similar research of other candidates that I support Obama's policies and outlook the most of all out of the candidates.
This thread reeks of cliches and misinformation. I had hoped that people here would of put more time in their evaluation of the candidates.
17 Feb 2008, 9:24 pm
