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24 Sep 2005, 12:22 pm

I totally agree that a lot of the topics ar to sophmoric and to explicit


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24 Sep 2005, 1:08 pm

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... for example, organisations such as the CRE.

What the hell have Blair's race thought-police got to do with a forum run by someone in the US?

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The point I was making was that if this kind of material is detrimental to people's willingness or feeling of ability to post more 'weighty' issues, then in some respects, it can be quite destructive.

There is an element of truth in that, but if you turn this place into a squeaky-clean non-controversial PG13 (to quote ghosthunter) paragon of Christian virtue then that would be equally damaging.



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24 Sep 2005, 7:02 pm

The points I was making were not intended to be proscriptive. Certainly 'Tony Blair\'s thought police' have nothing to do with it, but on the other hand, if some people say things that could alienate others, that could, theoretically be problematical.

Also, I would advance the view that Tony Blair's thought police arrived before even he did, which would at least lend credence to your point about them being his thought police, I suppose.

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24 Sep 2005, 9:35 pm

I think another forum is a good idea. I would like to be able to read and post in topics concerning suicide and other serious, more mature matters, but do not want to have to deal with sexual innuendos. Younger members, specifically teenagers, deal with many of the same things that adults do, but many of the threads may not be appropriate in the existing mature forum. Moderators, could you please take this idea into consideration?


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24 Sep 2005, 9:52 pm

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Everybody's idea of what is pointless or offensive is different. Some people might find you're posts more pointless and/or offensive than those on the mature forum.



Wow, we agree on something.



Hey Sean, if you are offended by language why are you so drawn to the "adult" thread?



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24 Sep 2005, 10:00 pm

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Hey Sean, if you are offended by language why are you so drawn to the "adult" thread?


I'm confused. I re-read through this entire thread and couldn't find where he said (or implied) that he was offended by the language. Could you point me to what he said that resulted in you making this conclusion? :?


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24 Sep 2005, 10:18 pm

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Hey Sean, if you are offended by language why are you so drawn to the "adult" thread?

1) It's not the language that's the problem. It's very constructive discussions getting lost in a forum full of gross immaturity.

2) I do not frequent the mature forum that much. Most of it isn't worth the trouble and it's often TMI as well.

3) I think that the mature forum should be divided in a way that non-sexual, or maybe mildly sexual mature material more likely to be relavent to minors is separated from the adult content.



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24 Sep 2005, 11:13 pm

Sean wrote:
There are some very good and constructive discussions in the mature forum. Unforutnately, most if them are buried in a pile of sophmoric crap. Is there some way to create a new forum that would seperate constructive non sexual and mildly sexual mature matters into it's own forum, then leave the existing mature forum for people to post their toilet humor and then turn around and wonder why they don't have a girlfriend?


Well I'm sorry we're not all as *cough*sophisticated*cough* as you are. Has it ever occured to you that there are some girls out there who LIKE toilet humor?

EDIT: Okay, in all fairness, you do have a point. It is a bit odd to have "toilet humor" threads mixed in with serious threads about suicide and whatnot. Although, I do think that perhaps those serious threads would be appropriate in the members-only forum.



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24 Sep 2005, 11:51 pm

The problem if we create a forum just for "really freaking serious emotional stuff" is that some people will abuse it in a whole new way. There are some people in the world—I'm sad to say—who feign suicidality for attention. It sounds sick, but it's true. Every once in a while, when they're feeling ignored, they'll spout off about how they can't take it anymore and want to kill themselves. I personally am not particularly interested in offering such people reassurances that they are decent folks every few days.



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25 Sep 2005, 12:00 am

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The problem if we create a forum just for "really freaking serious emotional stuff" is that some people will abuse it in a whole new way. There are some people in the world—I'm sad to say—who feign suicidality for attention. It sounds sick, but it's true. Every once in a while, when they're feeling ignored, they'll spout off about how they can't take it anymore and want to kill themselves. I personally am not particularly interested in offering such people reassurances that they are decent folks every few days.


People like that are pathetic, no doubt about it, but I don't see what's stopping them from doing that with the current board configuration.



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25 Sep 2005, 1:13 am

I think there is a lot of merit for having a mature forum AND an 'old people who are acting immature' forum. I had something of the 'mature' nature to post the other day, but I ended up sticking it in member's only cos I didn't want it trivialised...


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25 Sep 2005, 1:16 am

So these immature people didnt have access to the members only forum? I think it wasnt trivialised because it was a clearly serious situation, not because it was in a certain forum or not.



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25 Sep 2005, 1:16 am

fair points, all. i'll bring it up with the other Mods.

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25 Sep 2005, 1:22 am

eamonn wrote:
So these immature people didnt have access to the members only forum? I think it wasnt trivialised because it was a clearly serious situation, not because it was in a certain forum or not.


Not necessarily. There are a lot of posts in Members Only that started out serious and turned into jokes. I don't hold anything against a forum full of sexual innuendo juicy goodness, but I didn't fancy posting my piece for it to get sandwhiched between Fart Jokes and Micropenis Enlarged...


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