22 Mar 2008, 5:51 pm
MR_BOGAN wrote:
Aridarr wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
My logic
I think men are not sexist because we harass women, we are just a bit ignorant about it and if we do it we need to be taught that woman find it threating or offensive.
We are a bit ignorant about it because we love it when women harass us, so we just naturally assume woman like it when we harrass them and have trouble understanding why.
On the opposite side of the coin. Because woman don't liked been harassed, they don't harrass men, which is a shame because we enjoy harassment and miss out.
That's how it works.
If any women on here want to call be a sexy b***h, etc.. please do
If you don't I will just assume you are sexist because you are not conciderate to my feelings. 
I think men are not sexist because we harass women, we are just a bit ignorant about it and if we do it we need to be taught that woman find it threating or offensive.
We are a bit ignorant about it because we love it when women harass us, so we just naturally assume woman like it when we harrass them and have trouble understanding why.
On the opposite side of the coin. Because woman don't liked been harassed, they don't harrass men, which is a shame because we enjoy harassment and miss out.
That's how it works.
If any women on here want to call be a sexy b***h, etc.. please do
If you don't I will just assume you are sexist because you are not conciderate to my feelings. It probably depends on the man in question. Some are just clueless, some are wilfully disrespectful and believe women to be lower life forms. But any man with a shred of common sense would recognise when such attention is unwelcome.
I think we just see things differently.
I don't harass women by the way, well maybe in a more gentlemanly fashion.
Sure some men are sexist, just like some woman are sexist. I actually find women are just as clueless about men, they seem to over analyse you and come up with all these strange ideas. I've found women to be disrespectful and think men are lower life forms, reading some stuff in here for example.
From my point of view I find the most frustrating with woman is that they are so sensitive about everything (well from my point of view they seem that way), but then again I love their sensitive side.
I agree with some of what you are saying, and I certainly wouldn't accuse a man of sexism without good reason. But, like you said, there are some bad men out there, just as there are bad women. The behaviour I am referring to is that which is undeniably sexist, which debases the woman and shows no regard for her feelings. Worse than gentle teasing, I mean.
On several occasions, men in cars have pursued me home while yelling obscene comments at me ("I'll f**k your p***y!") That's the sort of thing I mean. And, I suppose after having suffered such verbal abuse and intimidation, I am more sensitive to more benign forms of harassment. It's important to remember that sensitivity in women is not simply a product of the chemistry of their brains, but a completely rational defensive reaction to the dangerous and primarily male-dominated world in which they are forced to live.
(Just my personal observation - I'm sure other people differ from me in this opinion.)
That's why I think it is important to be considerate. But then, all people should be considerate to one another, regardless of gender.
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22 Mar 2008, 6:15 pm
22 Mar 2008, 7:41 pm
Aridarr wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
Aridarr wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
My logic
I think men are not sexist because we harass women, we are just a bit ignorant about it and if we do it we need to be taught that woman find it threating or offensive.
We are a bit ignorant about it because we love it when women harass us, so we just naturally assume woman like it when we harrass them and have trouble understanding why.
On the opposite side of the coin. Because woman don't liked been harassed, they don't harrass men, which is a shame because we enjoy harassment and miss out.
That's how it works.
If any women on here want to call be a sexy b***h, etc.. please do If you don't I will just assume you are sexist because you are not conciderate to my feelings.
I think men are not sexist because we harass women, we are just a bit ignorant about it and if we do it we need to be taught that woman find it threating or offensive.
We are a bit ignorant about it because we love it when women harass us, so we just naturally assume woman like it when we harrass them and have trouble understanding why.
On the opposite side of the coin. Because woman don't liked been harassed, they don't harrass men, which is a shame because we enjoy harassment and miss out.
That's how it works.
If any women on here want to call be a sexy b***h, etc.. please do
If you don't I will just assume you are sexist because you are not conciderate to my feelings. It probably depends on the man in question. Some are just clueless, some are wilfully disrespectful and believe women to be lower life forms. But any man with a shred of common sense would recognise when such attention is unwelcome.
I think we just see things differently.
I don't harass women by the way, well maybe in a more gentlemanly fashion.
Sure some men are sexist, just like some woman are sexist. I actually find women are just as clueless about men, they seem to over analyse you and come up with all these strange ideas. I've found women to be disrespectful and think men are lower life forms, reading some stuff in here for example.
From my point of view I find the most frustrating with woman is that they are so sensitive about everything (well from my point of view they seem that way), but then again I love their sensitive side.
I agree with some of what you are saying, and I certainly wouldn't accuse a man of sexism without good reason. But, like you said, there are some bad men out there, just as there are bad women. The behaviour I am referring to is that which is undeniably sexist, which debases the woman and shows no regard for her feelings. Worse than gentle teasing, I mean.
On several occasions, men in cars have pursued me home while yelling obscene comments at me ("I'll f**k your p***y!") That's the sort of thing I mean. And, I suppose after having suffered such verbal abuse and intimidation, I am more sensitive to more benign forms of harassment. It's important to remember that sensitivity in women is not simply a product of the chemistry of their brains, but a completely rational defensive reaction to the dangerous and primarily male-dominated world in which they are forced to live.
(Just my personal observation - I'm sure other people differ from me in this opinion.)
That's why I think it is important to be considerate. But then, all people should be considerate to one another, regardless of gender.
For guys in cars to pursue you home and shout "I'll f**k your p****!" is MORE than just harassment Aridarr-AFAIK that constitutes full blown stalking! Saying that to someone you Know is considered to be a threat of violence and not just rude, insulting behaviour. Now lemme be clear with you that I have NEVER said or done such a thing! The only time I ever follow people in cars is when they cut me off or try to outrace me-and I do it to men too. The most I have ever done is catcall young women on foot wearing miniskirts or women riding bicycles with their thongs hanging out
. Some would call that sexism but I see it as a response to them dressing provocatively and it certainly isnt threatning violence.
22 Mar 2008, 7:44 pm
D1nk0 wrote:
Aridarr wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
Aridarr wrote:
MR_BOGAN wrote:
My logic
I think men are not sexist because we harass women, we are just a bit ignorant about it and if we do it we need to be taught that woman find it threating or offensive.
We are a bit ignorant about it because we love it when women harass us, so we just naturally assume woman like it when we harrass them and have trouble understanding why.
On the opposite side of the coin. Because woman don't liked been harassed, they don't harrass men, which is a shame because we enjoy harassment and miss out.
That's how it works.
If any women on here want to call be a sexy b***h, etc.. please do If you don't I will just assume you are sexist because you are not conciderate to my feelings.
I think men are not sexist because we harass women, we are just a bit ignorant about it and if we do it we need to be taught that woman find it threating or offensive.
We are a bit ignorant about it because we love it when women harass us, so we just naturally assume woman like it when we harrass them and have trouble understanding why.
On the opposite side of the coin. Because woman don't liked been harassed, they don't harrass men, which is a shame because we enjoy harassment and miss out.
That's how it works.
If any women on here want to call be a sexy b***h, etc.. please do
If you don't I will just assume you are sexist because you are not conciderate to my feelings. It probably depends on the man in question. Some are just clueless, some are wilfully disrespectful and believe women to be lower life forms. But any man with a shred of common sense would recognise when such attention is unwelcome.
I think we just see things differently.
I don't harass women by the way, well maybe in a more gentlemanly fashion.
Sure some men are sexist, just like some woman are sexist. I actually find women are just as clueless about men, they seem to over analyse you and come up with all these strange ideas. I've found women to be disrespectful and think men are lower life forms, reading some stuff in here for example.
From my point of view I find the most frustrating with woman is that they are so sensitive about everything (well from my point of view they seem that way), but then again I love their sensitive side.
I agree with some of what you are saying, and I certainly wouldn't accuse a man of sexism without good reason. But, like you said, there are some bad men out there, just as there are bad women. The behaviour I am referring to is that which is undeniably sexist, which debases the woman and shows no regard for her feelings. Worse than gentle teasing, I mean.
On several occasions, men in cars have pursued me home while yelling obscene comments at me ("I'll f**k your p***y!") That's the sort of thing I mean. And, I suppose after having suffered such verbal abuse and intimidation, I am more sensitive to more benign forms of harassment. It's important to remember that sensitivity in women is not simply a product of the chemistry of their brains, but a completely rational defensive reaction to the dangerous and primarily male-dominated world in which they are forced to live.
(Just my personal observation - I'm sure other people differ from me in this opinion.)
That's why I think it is important to be considerate. But then, all people should be considerate to one another, regardless of gender.
For guys in cars to pursue you home and shout "I'll f**k your p****!" is MORE than just harassment Aridarr-AFAIK that constitutes full blown stalking! Saying that to someone you Know is considered to be a threat of violence and not just rude, insulting behaviour. Now lemme be clear with you that I have NEVER said or done such a thing! The only time I ever follow people in cars is when they cut me off or try to outrace me-and I do it to men too. The most I have ever done is catcall young women on foot wearing miniskirts or women riding bicycles with their thongs hanging out
. Some would call that sexism but I see it as a response to them dressing provocatively and it certainly isnt threatning violence.My point remains; that sort of behavior is annoyingly disrespectful and should be curbed.
It is possible that that sort of reaction from a man wouldn’t particularly upset some women; but it is best never to make such assumptions. They may be dressed provocatively, in your eyes; but they could have reasons for doing so that do not involve a wish to attract attention from strangers. And as you do not know them personally, you should respect their boundaries.
Also, keep in mind that behaving in that way makes you look like a bit of an idiot.
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