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16 Feb 2016, 8:02 pm

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I never once said anything bad about that OP, or discounted her experiences.


That really wasn't the issue, you were derailing the thread, and I did ask for responses from women (ie, not you). The way you kept posting in the thread was intrusive. I didn't report you, but clearly someone did and I thank them for it.



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16 Feb 2016, 8:12 pm

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I'm not back but I read here now and then. I made a private womens only subforum on my forum, if y'all are interested. It's exactly how you asked for it, you are added to a member group by staff and only staff and the members can see this subforum. There aren't very many people there and it hasn't been very active, but if all the ladies who are wanting a private women only forum join, then at least that part of it will be.

I found my login info and created the subforum just now, just for y'all cause you been wanting it so long. It's there and it's all yours. The link to my forum is in my signature. And if you are hesitant to come use it because of a problem with me, I'll gladly make one or two of yalls group the mods of that particular subforum and just be hands off. So its win win really. If you want to do this let me know and I'll start checking for new members there and adding you to the group for it.


I really appreciate this. And I have no problem with you at all so it's okay with me if you are the mod. I've been meaning to come register over there anyway, just kept procrastinating. I really get stuck in a routine with certain websites and it takes me awhile to get used to a new one. Probably a lot of others are the same but I'm sure in time things will pick up there. I miss seeing you post here.



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16 Feb 2016, 8:14 pm

Regardless of whether my post to League Girl was in a Woman Only thread or not, the fact remains that this individual attempting to "defend" LG and accusing me of something that was NEVER the case - or LG would have spoken up at once - would have had the same effect (derailment of the thread) had I "retorted". Instead, I opted to report it.

Women get together, tease, pull each others' legs - that's between WOMEN. Just who is this person to show up on the thread, setting himself as "defender of the mocked" ? Who is this person to speak for LG ? Did LG appoint this individual as her mouth piece ? It was an uncalled for act intended to create problems, and the fact that no action was taken does not mean that no rules were broken by this person.
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16 Feb 2016, 8:18 pm

dianthus wrote:
0_equals_true wrote:
I never once said anything bad about that OP, or discounted her experiences.


That really wasn't the issue, you were derailing the thread, and I did ask for responses from women (ie, not you). The way you kept posting in the thread was intrusive. I didn't report you, but clearly someone did and I thank them for it.


I asked a mod directly if something that was separate from your topic discussion could be split off.

Some people made a big thing about me attacking people, the only accusation I leveled at anyone specifically was HisMom. When she was questioned my behaviour, I questioned hers. Yet what is good for the goose is not good for the gander.

Never mind. I had put this behind me. Yet people are saying I was attacking people. Well, it would have been good to have the original posts, intact to see if that was the case.

What other member did I attack?

Maybe it was disruptive, if so I'm sorry, but I felt strongly a point about men's self control was public interest. Personally I'm not in favour of closed discussions on a public forum for ASD people, but that is my opinion. However if we are going to talk about that whole sorry affair, then people aught to be accurate about it.

I try to criticise ideas mostly.



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16 Feb 2016, 8:26 pm

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Women get together, tease, pull each others' legs - that's between WOMEN. Just who is this person to show up on the thread, setting himself as "defender of the mocked" ? Who is this person to speak for LG ? Did LG appoint this individual as her mouth piece ? It was an uncalled for act intended to create problems, and the fact that no action was taken does not mean that no rules were broken by this person.
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I'm free to critisise you if you, say things about another member or anyone.

It is not one rule for you and another rule for me. You don't have to like it. I didn't report becuase understand the criticism is often met with criticism, this is normal an healthy.

I asked the OP about this post, and she agreed with me, how it came across. She didn't find it funny.

So you think I'm causing problems. Bare in mind anyone is prone to foot in mouth moments. I felt it was worthy of criticism. You play it down now, it didn't come across that way to me. Perhaps that was not your intent. Well you were better off just saying that.

Had a man made a similar response in the women's discussion would it have met with ire?

I bid you good night.



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16 Feb 2016, 8:31 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
Some people made a big thing about me attacking people, the only accusation I leveled at anyone specifically was HisMom. When she was questioned my behaviour, I questioned hers. Yet what is good for the goose is not good for the gander.



Yes, you decided to stalk and harass me by following me around and attacking my postings ONLY AFTER I complained about your intrusive behaviour in Dianthus' thread. At least now you freely admit it.


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I'm free to critisise you if you, say things about another member or anyone.

It is not one rule for you and another rule for me. You don't have to like it. I didn't report becuase understand the criticism is often met with criticism, this is normal an healthy.

I asked the OP about this post, and she agreed with me, how it came across. She didn't find it funny.

So you think I'm causing problems. Bare in mind anyone is prone to foot in mouth moments. I felt it was worthy of criticism. You play it down now, it didn't come across that way to me. Perhaps that was not your intent. Well you were better off just saying that.

Had a man made a similar response in the women's discussion would it have met with ire?

I bid you good night.


First of all, who are YOU that I have to state my intention in a Women's forum thread to YOU, a man ? Are you really a woman in disguise ?

Secondly, the OP of the thread you are complaining about WAS NOT League Girl. And, you were attempting to attack me in retort for me complaining about your posts on dianthus' threads, pretending that you were criticizing my post to LG. It's not "one rule for you" and "one rule for me". The rules are clear and universal. Stalking and harassment are prohibited by this website, so your attacks are against the rules. You don't get to pass off your behaviour as "defending an innocent woman" when your intention was to harass me.

If you are not a woman, you need to butt out and save your "criticisms" for yourself. You didn't report my post because you knew you would have been laughed out of the website, so you attacked me, instead. You *don't* get to dictate what women may or may not say to each other, how we may or may not tease or rib each other. Who are YOU to determine if a woman should view a post as an insult or not ? It's not your place, and you should mind your own business. I will continue reporting your harassment, and hopefully some action will be taken against you eventually.


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16 Feb 2016, 10:05 pm

This thread if it is going to continue needs to do so without contentious targeted posts back and forth. I understand that according respect as two way process may be the last thing some posters here want to do at present and it can be a difficult concession to make at times, (one person feels attacked, they attack back, the attacked blames them for attacking and counter-attacks, and so on and so on). Respect is the best way to resolve these mutually destructive spirals which leave everyone feeling angry and aggrieved.

Don't reply to this please with more aggro eg "he/she didn't respect me, so why should I respect him/her" In spiral loops like that both people behind the aggro are likely to be feeling excluded/blamed/disrespected/hurt/misrepresented. It's always a lose-lose situation and threads end up locked. It becomes a win win when each party switches to treating the other in the way they want to be treated, with courtesy however much disagreement exists (a very powerful form of respect) and backpedal perhaps on the blaming "you you you you" fingerpointing stuff which just escalates the conflict.



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17 Feb 2016, 12:46 am

You know, men, if you see a woman stabbing or clubbing another woman to death, stay away and look the other way. What happens among women is none of your business and it's arrogant, nosy and disrespectful to think anyone needs you as a defender. Besides, you should be immediately charged with harassment, as you clearly want to get into the victim's pants.


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17 Feb 2016, 1:22 am

There are rules against flaming, Spiderpig, please refresh your acquaintance with these.



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17 Feb 2016, 6:23 am

This thread seems like it has ceased to have any sort of constructive purpose a long time ago. I have seen plenty of pointless arguing and I'm not sure why people are still engaging in it.



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17 Feb 2016, 6:53 am

I think the best solution is for people to employ this credo:

Discretion is the better part of valor.

If women want to discuss something with only women, allow them to do this.

Just like, sometimes, men want to discuss "man" stuff with other men.

That's why we have "man caves" and "women parlors."



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17 Feb 2016, 10:24 am

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Apparently, English is someone's second language. 'Ignore and report" is now synonymous with "unable to retort".

Haha. Thank you for that HM, I haven't laughed in awhile.

I'd just like to address the thread about intercourse as I am the OP and I have been mentioned regarding the thread.

HisMom, I found your post in that thread to be designed to deliberately discount the poster's comments by mocking them. Had I been her, I don't think I would have responded to you either. I think that in a thread dealing with such a sensitive topic, that mocking is inappropriate. While it doesn't break any rules that I know of, I am disappointed in your tone in that post. I think you were inappropriately derisive and I am still a bit taken aback by your disregard for another woman's self expression.



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17 Feb 2016, 3:01 pm

My biggest issue now is the other user (smudge) who made a false claim that I attacked her in the contentious thread.

I had put that issue behind me, then this person made this claim.

My focus what on a central point. I briefly responded to her, at no point was there a personal attack. I take issue with Libelous claims.



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17 Feb 2016, 3:05 pm

0_equals_true wrote:
My biggest issue now is the other user (smudge) who made a false claim that I attacked her in the contentious thread.

I had put that issue behind me, then this person made this claim.

My focus what on a central point. I briefly responded to her, at no point was there a personal attack. I take issue with Libelous claims.


Calm the Hell down. This and your last post to me on here is what I'm talking about, you just launch at people having a big go at them. This isn't like you. Heck, you used to ignore me.


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17 Feb 2016, 3:34 pm

I can understand now why poor OliveOilMom left. Seeing as she was treated with indignity and somewhat disrespect.
The content of her forum has been left hacked now, by members from here. I wonder if she'll get some more people to just inform her of this and create sustainable bans.



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17 Feb 2016, 3:47 pm

Can everyone please calm down ? Please ?

Now, Ann (posting as "androbot" in this thread), I am so so so sorry that you felt that I was attacking another woman's "self-expression" on your thread. You know that it was just a good old fashioned female ribbing from one woman to another. LG and I are old pals, she won't care, but I am sorry that your feelings were hurt. Having said that, I have to tell you that my feelings get hurt because you continuously change your user name and it's getting hard to keep track of your identities. I suggest that you stick to one user id - be it Ann45 or Bananabread or androbot. I believe that sock puppets are against the rules of this forum, and I know that your intention isn't to create sock puppets for yourself. Maybe you just forget passwords - who knows ? In that case, you can always email the mods and ask to reset your password. Consistency is key, you know, and multiple ids take away from your posting count. Just a suggestion.

As for you, 0_equals_true, I find your claim of smudge making "libelous" postings very mirthful. I might make the same claims of your postings towards me, except that I won't be able show that your rantings about my postings have caused me any damages - the crucial point around which defamation suits hinge. Now, if you can prove damages, and if you have hundreds of thousands of pounds at your disposal to prove "damages" (because no lawyer is going to touch your laughable claims "pro-bono"), go on. I dare you to bring defamation claims against smudgie. And be aware that if you even THINK of traipsing down that garden path, then I might trump up charges of harassment by YOU against ME, not to mention libel for alleging that I was being nasty to LG (Ann45 aka Bananabread aka androbot might be well be a co-defendant in my ridiculous vexatious litigation, but I like her, so I'll spare her).

Smudge, didn't I tell you to ignore people ? Do you really need this in your life at this point of time ? I am sending you to bed with bread and water. If you don't listen to Teacher, you get punished. Off to bed with you... NOW ! :heart:(And don't worry about any discussions in your absence pertaining to you. You know I have your back, don't you) ?

Kraftie's post holds clues as to why he is absolutely my favourite person on this website. Go, Dan ! :)


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