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Mainland China reported 39 new coronavirus cases as of Sunday, up from 30 a day earlier, and the number of asymptomatic cases also surged, as Beijing continued to struggle to extinguish the outbreak despite drastic containment efforts.

The National Health Commission said in a statement on Monday that 78 new asymptomatic cases had been identified as of the end of the day on Sunday, compared with 47 the day before.

Imported cases and asymptomatic patients, who have the virus and can give it to others but show no symptoms, have become China's chief concern in recent weeks after draconian containment measures succeeded in slashing the infection rate.

Of the new cases showing symptoms, 38 were people who had entered China from abroad, compared with 25 a day earlier. One new locally transmitted infection was reported, in the southern province of Guangdong, down from five a day earlier in the same province.

The new locally transmitted case, in the city of Shenzhen, was a person who had travelled from Hubei province, the original epicentre of the outbreak, Guangdong provincial authorities said.

The Guangdong health commission raised the risk level for a total of four districts in the cities of Guangzhou, Shenzhen and Jieyang from low to medium late on Sunday.

The country has closed off its borders to foreigners as the virus spreads globally, though most imported cases involve Chinese nationals returning from overseas.

Source: China sees rises in new coronavirus cases, asymptomatic patients

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About 1.6 million Chinese students were studying abroad when the coronavirus struck, and 1.4 million of them are still there, according to official figures. The largest single group of students was in the United States, it said, totaling about 400,000.

The government fears returnees who have been studying abroad could worsen the outbreak. But leaving them hanging risks making the authorities look like they can’t protect people.

For many people in China, the images from New York and other American cities look like a replay of Wuhan, the Chinese city where outbreak emerged. Their children, they fear, will be set adrift.

The coronavirus outbreak has stranded more than one million Chinese students in empty dormitories and fearful towns and cities around the world. Many of those overseas students want to flee back to China, where official numbers suggest that the authorities have made progress in containing the pandemic. Fear, politics and the competing priorities of the Chinese government stand in the way.

Virtually all flights to and from China have been canceled as Beijing tries to keep infected travelers from reigniting the contagion there. Remaining seats are breathtakingly expensive. For students trapped in the United States, their families worry that tense relations between Beijing and Washington will hinder Chinese-run evacuation efforts.

Source: Coronavirus Strands China’s Students, in a Dilemma for Beijing

I think when it comes to masks it's six of one and a half dozen of the other. People already wear face masks in the winter to keep warm. Especially those on bicycles and motorcycles. I don't think they are really going to harm or protect the wearer all that much. I think for a lot of people wearing a mask equals having control over the virus.

If it turns out that Trump was right in touting Hydroxychloroquine, there are going to be a lot of red-faced democrats.

How’s the saying go...
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in awhile.

And now for a little bit of humor!

They will just pretend that did not happen and go on to the next thing. At least you were a little more original and didn't use the 'a broken clock is right twice a day' line.

I don't imagine many medical professionals will start to appreciate him touting a drug that hadn't been tested for that use and still isn't proven to be significantly effective. At the time he first mentioned it all the research so far was based on how it behaved in a test tube, and studies are still ongoing to test it. Hydroxychloroquine itself is potentially harmful, the doses being used in this application are about 1g/day, 2g will kill a person.

He'll toot his own horn if it turns out to be an effective treatment, but considering he doesn't understand what goes into confirming that something is safe and effective, if "correct" it really will be 'a blind squirrel' like you said. It won't actually be correct because just like when you started learning division, the end result isn't the only thing that matters, part of what you had to demonstrate was that you knew why the answer was right.



While I wouldn't go as far as to explicitly blame Trump for the case of his two supporters who took chloroquine sourced from aquarium supplies with at least one of them dying as a result, that does seem to be the likely outcome of promoting a drug without actually understanding what exactly you're promoting. Even if he isn't liable, he contributed to that situation. If he wants credit he'll also have to accept blame, if he won't accept any blame he's really not entitled to any credit either.

All of that said, it would be nice if it is a safe and effective treatment. Anything that contributes to less human suffering over this is probably a good thing.

https://nationalpost.com/health/canada- ... e-wide-use
https://nationalpost.com/news/world/cov ... ll-a-human

"True", but irrelevant.
Hardcore partisans wouldn't admit the obvious truth,
That even a monkey can be right 25% of the time in a 4 choice multiple-choice test,
If that monkey was on the opposite side of the political divide.

Partisanship is very unaspie.
It is surprising and disappointing that there is so much of it around.
Bloody humans.

And now for something completely different:

source

A lot of aspies are more NT than autistic so that is why you see so much of that sort of thing here.

We're people, it would be expected that we'd be prone to acting like people at least some of us, at least some of the time.

OMG!
What have I started?!

My point was that the Australian medical people think there may be something to the drug. <sigh>
Some of you guys are so easily distracted.

I'm not disagreeing that there might be something. But, non-experts shouldn't be using their platform as US president to tout it before the risks are understood, your point is valid and not being argued against, but so is mine (and hopefully it's not be argued against either).

https://www.forbes.com/sites/victoriafo ... 5a443255f8

If you care about someone who takes metformin, you would care about someone potentially convincing them to take a drug that is likely to kill them because of interactions that neither party knew about, especially given the risk is known to the medical community.

A lot of misguided aspies have been polluted/corrupted by neurotypical social values/non-values , groupthink and deceptive practices.
Too many are ego-driven, I have found.

That was an eye-opener when I came here 7 years ago.
But what can you do?
Someone who values a scientific methodological mindset has to accept the truth, process it, and factor it in from there on in.
Makes things more messy/complicated/interesting.

<exits>
<has trouble walking through doorways with such a big head>

According to Wikipedia:

Off-label use is the use of pharmaceutical drugs for an unapproved indication or in an unapproved age group, dosage, or route of administration.

Off-label use is very common. Generic drugs generally have no sponsor as their indications and use expands, and incentives are limited to initiate new clinical trials to generate additional data for approval agencies to expand indications of proprietary drugs. Up to one-fifth of all drugs are prescribed off-label and amongst psychiatric drugs, off-label use rises to 31%.

When a prescription drug is used off-label, a doctor makes the determination for medical use, with the consent of the patient. Someone deciding to drink fish tank cleaner on their own is just plain stupid.

I'll keep this short because it is off topic.
Did Trump *ever* tell people to take the drug?
I don't know because American politics isn't that important to me,
Unless I feel in need of a laugh.

You say that as though we'd somehow be 'purely asd-minded', but it's not 'pollution' or 'corruption' from others, it's innate because no one is purely ASD-minded. Some people are more, some are less, but even people who might appear severe in many categories won't be 'pure' in every regard at all times and even folks who don't meet or even strongly resemble the criteria for diagnosis may still display traits associated with at times.

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