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21 Sep 2009, 7:02 pm

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My courageous mother endured 2 hellish bouts of breast cancer (including lumpectomy, radiation, chemo, and an eventual mastectomy) in the space of 10 years; each time, she was declared "cancer-free" after 5 years. In 2005, ovarian cancer struck seemingly out of nowhere; because it's a "silent killer" (few noticeable symptoms until it's too late), Mom was already at Stage IV when she was diagnosed. In spite of going through a series of nightmarish, ghastly surgeries and procedures, their aftermath, and multiple series of hardcore, debilitating chemo, Mom died in late November '06.

Ovarian cancer's almost always terminal. Be careful what you wish for.


Exactly my point. My condolences.


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21 Sep 2009, 7:10 pm

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Exactly my point. My condolences.


Thank you. My gyno's been talking about my hereditary risks, and suggesting that I have my ovaries removed sooner than later, as a precautionary measure. That's a ticket to instant old-hagdom, and I'm not sure how I feel about that. Very discouraging.


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22 Sep 2009, 9:49 am

Why didn't I go with my first idea of just cutting them out myself?



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22 Sep 2009, 9:51 am

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Why didn't I go with my first idea of just cutting them out myself?


Because that would be suicide, and I don't think you want to die.



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26 Sep 2009, 12:15 pm

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I'm a guy, so my response may be moot, but a friend was"cleaned out" of her woman parts, but the ovaries were left. Without them, one doesn't prduce the nessesary female hormones, and the testosterone takes over, producing body hair in , perhaps, the wrong places. She no longer menses and feels great for that, and claims, if I may say, to be 'hornier' because she is not burdened with the problems plaguing menstruation.
But , I'm just a guy, and relaying what my friend had said.


That sounds cool. I want to have that done.


they took away her vagina???? HOW?



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26 Sep 2009, 12:53 pm

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tourettebassist wrote:
I'm a guy, so my response may be moot, but a friend was"cleaned out" of her woman parts, but the ovaries were left. Without them, one doesn't prduce the nessesary female hormones, and the testosterone takes over, producing body hair in , perhaps, the wrong places. She no longer menses and feels great for that, and claims, if I may say, to be 'hornier' because she is not burdened with the problems plaguing menstruation.
But , I'm just a guy, and relaying what my friend had said.


That sounds cool. I want to have that done.


they took away her vagina???? HOW?


Unless there was a malignancy or other health- or life-threatening issues present, it's unlikely that part of her vagina would've been removed (the upper part of the vagina and the cervix are often removed in cases of cervical cancer, for example). He's referring to a hysterectomy, in which the uterus was removed but the ovaries were preserved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hysterectomy


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26 Sep 2009, 12:57 pm

that's very odd. so the nerves and stuff arent damaged on the g-spot and stuff?
seriously though that's......well id never want to do it.



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28 Sep 2009, 7:41 am

I was on the implant for a while. (Implanon in europe?) It stopped everything till I took it out! You could try that?

Be a shame to wish something away when you may miss it a decade or two later. You sound young to make a decision when few teens actually want children.

I do know the feeling of hating periods. Seeing as how I love kids I plan on staying pregnant/lactating for quite some time. :)

Also evening primrose oil and starflower oil are supposed to help hugely with symptoms! I'll be trying them when I actually have cycles again.



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28 Sep 2009, 9:19 am

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that's very odd. so the nerves and stuff arent damaged on the g-spot and stuff?
seriously though that's......well id never want to do it.


That's a good question - I have no idea. Sadly, some women have no choice, depending on their current medical situations. Definitely worth investigating, though, because I have uterine fibroids that seem to be growing (:cry:), and my gyno's already brought up the subject of hysterectomy, based on the fibroids and my family's history of breast and ovarian cancers. So I'll go from an extremely-youthful 41 to 80 overnight?! F*ck that! There *has* to be some less-invasive/less-drastic alternative.


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28 Sep 2009, 9:34 am

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that's very odd. so the nerves and stuff arent damaged on the g-spot and stuff?
seriously though that's......well id never want to do it.


That's a good question - I have no idea. Sadly, some women have no choice, depending on their current medical situations. Definitely worth investigating, though, because I have uterine fibroids that seem to be growing (:cry:), and my gyno's already brought up the subject of hysterectomy, based on the fibroids and my family's history of breast and ovarian cancers. So I'll go from an extremely-youthful 41 to 80 overnight?! F*ck that! There *has* to be some less-invasive/less-drastic alternative.

Most of the time there are alernative I'd find a new doctor for a second opition. The hormons they give you after a hysterectomy ore far mre likely to give you breast cancer then the ones that your ovaries make. Just make sure your doctor is aware of the family history and get a p.t. ever 6 months it's only once a year for women with out a stronge family history if caught early it's got a 94% cure rate. There is a drug the helps cut the rate of cancer in women with the gene for it get tested for this gene there are lots of kinds of cancer some run in familys some don't. You maybe lucky and not have this gene better to know then to not. Much luck and I hope you stay healthy :)



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28 Sep 2009, 9:38 am

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that's very odd. so the nerves and stuff arent damaged on the g-spot and stuff?
seriously though that's......well id never want to do it.


That's a good question - I have no idea. Sadly, some women have no choice, depending on their current medical situations. Definitely worth investigating, though, because I have uterine fibroids that seem to be growing (:cry:), and my gyno's already brought up the subject of hysterectomy, based on the fibroids and my family's history of breast and ovarian cancers. So I'll go from an extremely-youthful 41 to 80 overnight?! F*ck that! There *has* to be some less-invasive/less-drastic alternative.


:(. what's a uterine fibroid? i hope you get it sorted out. i dont think theres anything wrong with mine at the moment. i had an fallopean cyst once, that hurt a lot.
yeah, it would be really sad if they lost any feeling due to getting their bits removed. i heard it can happen when people get their labia snipped off.



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28 Sep 2009, 9:49 am

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what's a uterine fibroid? i hope you get it sorted out. i dont think theres anything wrong with mine at the moment. i had an fallopean cyst once, that hurt a lot.
yeah, it would be really sad if they lost any feeling due to getting their bits removed. i heard it can happen when people get their labia snipped off.


Info on uterine fibroids:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibroids

No one in any civilized country snips off the external parts of women's genitalia, unless those parts have malignancies (vulvar cancer, etc.). Forced genital mutilation without women's consent is solely practiced by psychopathic subhumans, imho.


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28 Sep 2009, 9:54 am

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what's a uterine fibroid? i hope you get it sorted out. i dont think theres anything wrong with mine at the moment. i had an fallopean cyst once, that hurt a lot.
yeah, it would be really sad if they lost any feeling due to getting their bits removed. i heard it can happen when people get their labia snipped off.


Info on uterine fibroids:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibroids

No one in any civilized country snips off the external parts of women's genitalia, unless those parts have malignancies (vulvar cancer, etc.). Forced genital mutilation without women's consent is solely practiced by psychopathic subhumans, imho.


ouch!! i'm really sorry. :(. can they remove them or something?

it's called hollywood, m'dear! oh, but it isnt forced, the women voluntarily risk losing sensation because they feel their ladybits are disgusting, since the porn industry says so.



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28 Sep 2009, 10:07 am

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ouch!! i'm really sorry. :(. can they remove them or something?

it's called hollywood, m'dear! oh, but it isnt forced, the women voluntarily risk losing sensation because they feel their ladybits are disgusting, since the porn industry says so.


There's a procedure by which the fibroids can be removed from the uterine walls, which are then sewn back together. Sounds repulsive, but it preserves the uterus. It's mainly done for women who are in their childbearing years, and want to be able to have kids. I don't want kids, which is another reason that my gyno's been blabbing about hysterectomy (get it all done in one fell swoop, yadda yadda). I really dunno. The cancer risks will probably always be with me, whether I get everything carved out or not. I'm far too vain to want to turn into an old bag overnight, though, so we'll see...


Are you talking about labiaplasty, in which the inner and outer labia are cut and shaped into a "youthful"-looking vulva? If so, I didn't realize that it removed nerves/sensation. Those women are nuts for undergoing that kind of surgery voluntarily, in that case. Bleurgh!


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28 Sep 2009, 11:15 am

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ouch!! i'm really sorry. :(. can they remove them or something?

it's called hollywood, m'dear! oh, but it isnt forced, the women voluntarily risk losing sensation because they feel their ladybits are disgusting, since the porn industry says so.


There's a procedure by which the fibroids can be removed from the uterine walls, which are then sewn back together. Sounds repulsive, but it preserves the uterus. It's mainly done for women who are in their childbearing years, and want to be able to have kids. I don't want kids, which is another reason that my gyno's been blabbing about hysterectomy (get it all done in one fell swoop, yadda yadda). I really dunno. The cancer risks will probably always be with me, whether I get everything carved out or not. I'm far too vain to want to turn into an old bag overnight, though, so we'll see...


Are you talking about labiaplasty, in which the inner and outer labia are cut and shaped into a "youthful"-looking vulva? If so, I didn't realize that it removed nerves/sensation. Those women are nuts for undergoing that kind of surgery voluntarily, in that case. Bleurgh!



well, if i were you, i would want them removed. but that's because i do want kids eventually, and i saw a picture of them!! ! they are creepy looking :(.

yes. i am. sorry, i sat here trying to remember the word for it- couldnt. :/. it does remove sensation in some cases, and you know a lot of sensation comes from the actual labia. i know. every woman gets self concious about her labia, in reality most of the women who feel like freaks and get labiaplasty done are utterly normal. it's sad.



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28 Sep 2009, 1:43 pm

Since we're on the topic, my fiance is recovering from a combined vaginoplasty and labiaplasty right now - her sensation is fine.

But - she's trans, so there was a damn good reason to have the surgery. I've heard horror stories, but the vast majority (at least trans women) who have the procedure maintain sensitivity.

All that said, I think mutilation of any childs genitals (male, female or intersex) to meet some preconceived notion of "normal" or simply for aestethic reasons is barbaric. (Yes, this includes the standard circumcision)