Medical Marijuana for the Disabled and Dieing

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Medical Marijuana for the disabled and dieing
I agree with the use of M.J when its usage helps a patient and is authorized by a trained professional medical doctor. 47%  47%  [ 15 ]
I agree with the use of M.J when its usage helps a patient and is authorized by a trained professional medical doctor. 47%  47%  [ 15 ]
I don’t’ agree with medical marijuana for the sick and dieing because I’m a cold hearted person who has no soul. Or I believe it’s of the devil and the voices object to its usage, I truly belief I have a right to take away the fundamental human rights of 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
I don’t’ agree with medical marijuana for the sick and dieing because I’m a cold hearted person who has no soul. Or I believe it’s of the devil and the voices object to its usage, I truly belief I have a right to take away the fundamental human rights of 3%  3%  [ 1 ]
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12 Apr 2006, 5:56 pm

With an issue such as this, debating in a style in support of M.J for everyone instead of just patients is far to much of a controversy.

There are many circumstances where such a substance can be used in ways that destroy an individual. There are only some ways which are not supported by me because of the possibilities of the bad resulting circumstances that when used by non-patients might not be bad.

The bottom line is the suffering that could benefit, not arguing for medical usage while combined with total legalization. It's an obvious blunder and one I am not going to do.

I’ve debated the issue having knowledge of relevant materials in introduction to make the ethical argument necessary for this cogent exercise. In spite of the Nazi avatar thing and his rude introduction into this topic, I’m finished with it.



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12 Apr 2006, 6:25 pm

If anyone is sabotaging medical cannabis rights it is those organizations that profit from its illegality. These organizations often operate in the name of compassionate use but in fact have been known to interfere with the full legalization of marijuana so that they can continue to profit. It's a very complicated issue being fought in the courts, and what some people have to say about the issue at rallies or in public forums turns out to be completely irrelevant.



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12 Apr 2006, 6:44 pm

Parrelelic anidotionism

There is nothing wrong with making money providing a medicine for patients. If everyone was to be seen because of financial jalousies (as if you would be rather be the one organized to profit like any entrepreneur) as corrupt unethically in agenda, it would be a deranged world.

In a way though I intend no insult, you point of view might be blinding itself.


Really is cigarettes and hard alcohol something good for society? Would it be a better world without them?

Excluding wine and the infrequent drinker who does not self-medicate.

I don't like money, its bad thing in many ways.



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12 Apr 2006, 8:42 pm

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That sort of application is not common, likely more an excuse to feel the effect even if subtle. It does not take much at all.

Also the substance increases appetite.


seeds and seed oil are highly nutritious and have no psychoactive effect. Furthermore, some strains of the plant itself have virtually no psychoactive effect and thus no recreational value.

You need to eat a lot more of drug-strain cannabis to get high, than with smoking especially if its not prepared properly (i know this from experience) So it seems quite plausable to me that it could be used as a non-psychoactive flavouring for food in small amounts.

Nutmeg is a powerful drug (MMDA) if you eat a few grams at once (warning: DONT!) - should nutmeg be banned from culinary use?



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12 Apr 2006, 9:34 pm

There are other things to eat for nutrition then to ultimately get your high through the subconscious desire to legalize the addiction.

Warning labels are good.



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13 Apr 2006, 2:25 am

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There are other things to eat for nutrition then to ultimately get your high through the subconscious desire to legalize the addiction.

Warning labels are good.


hemp seed is not psychoactive, as someone above stated, and is one of the most nutritionally rich foods known to mankind. it is one of a very few foods that contains the complete spectrun of proteins, and as i have read is the richest known source of EFAs.



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13 Apr 2006, 2:55 am

I have had legal cereal from a store called Trader Joes with hemp in it. IT was good and had all that nutrition stuff in it. I'm not debating against that.

The topic is quite old and mundane.



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13 Apr 2006, 3:01 am

i say just legalize it for recreational use and be done with the whole debate. there is no viable reason to keep marijuana illegal.



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13 Apr 2006, 3:10 am

You risk creating addiction with new generations. Unlike cigarettes and alcohol which are contained and carded for, the distribution of the plant is so easy that it would be everywhere. It would be devastating to have society cope with legalization of this nature.



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13 Apr 2006, 3:16 am

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You risk creating addiction with new generations. Unlike cigarettes and alcohol which are contained and carded for, the distribution of the plant is so easy that it would be everywhere. It would be devastating to have society cope with legalization of this nature.



that's BS. if it were to be legalized, it could be controlled much more effectively because you would have corporate sources distributing and no one would want to bother to grow it except a few people.

on top of that, you risk violence crime, getting bad weed that's been mixed with dangerous drugs or chemicals(like hair spray) because there's no regulations on the product.


and actually the most easily attained drug is alcohol, by the way. and it's the most common reason for hospital visits in the US. it's a lot easier to break into mom and dad's liquor cabinet and get drunk and more likely than not, it would stay that way with the drug legalized for casual consumption. smoke just is far too easy to tell and isn't for everyone anyways.

the addicts will be addicts no matter if it's legal or not. and to say that by keeping it illegal, you discourage people from trying it is simply a fallacy and is as wrong as the idea of marijuana being a gateway drug. the attitudes about marijuana would stay the same whether it's legal or not. the only thing that would change is that the government would be allowed to stop lying to the public about its dangers and could talk honestly about what its effects are and the dangerous and how addictive it is.



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13 Apr 2006, 3:29 am

Dangerous criminals / terrorists would have less funding sources. Unless they own complex or have relations with complex manufacturing facilitations sources for harsher drugs.

Even still, I know that you are either unaware or incapable to comprehend the social psychological ramifications of total legalization. It would always be accessible and it would surely then cause more individual cases of involvement. With this said the subjective dictation of how it is the substance causes life change for the negative would be undoubtedly increase whatever the ratio overall.

Are you a pink brain washed monkey ( one love, reggae music folk), or are you really that unserious about the causal ramifications of what you are advocating for?



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13 Apr 2006, 4:25 am

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Even still, I know that you are either unaware or incapable to comprehend the social psychological ramifications of total legalization.

can you elucidate for us the "social psychological ramifications" please? are you aware that in holland cannabis has been available on a quasi-legal basis for decades, and they don't seem to have any social psychological problems as a result. are you also aware that in many areas of india and pakistan, for example, cannabis has been used recreationally and for religious purposes for millenia?
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It would always be accessible and it would surely then cause more individual cases of involvement. With this said the subjective dictation of how it is the substance causes life change for the negative would be undoubtedly increase whatever the ratio overall.

again, what about holland?
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Are you a pink brain washed monkey ( one love, reggae music folk), or are you really that unserious about the causal ramifications of what you are advocating for?

this statement seems somewhat racist and bigotted to me.



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13 Apr 2006, 5:09 am

If increase usage in a society like the U.S creates more problems for individuals like cigarettes and alcohol does to some, it is just another one of those addictive substances out there.

Additionally cigarettes don’t grow on bushes while having the conveniance to prepare so easily, it’s too difficult by comparison to just take off a plant and smoke without extensive processing by an individual. Additionally alcohol does not grow on trees nor do Budweiser cans grow on bushes.

Availability and the ramifications of the overall local distribution sources increased to even a field of weeds. Growing so commonly that anyone of any age can just go pick it off a plant and the abuse cycle would begin there.

I believe it is also a social peer pressured state of mind, in which social gatherings are conducted for its purpose and that such encounters of drugged circumstances are points of furthered addiction patterns impressed upon by the influence of others.

Danger Will Robinson..



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13 Apr 2006, 12:59 pm

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Dangerous criminals / terrorists would have less funding sources. Unless they own complex or have relations with complex manufacturing facilitations sources for harsher drugs.

Even still, I know that you are either unaware or incapable to comprehend the social psychological ramifications of total legalization. It would always be accessible and it would surely then cause more individual cases of involvement. With this said the subjective dictation of how it is the substance causes life change for the negative would be undoubtedly increase whatever the ratio overall.

Are you a pink brain washed monkey ( one love, reggae music folk), or are you really that unserious about the causal ramifications of what you are advocating for?



are you really ignoring the ramifications of it being illegal or do you really have that much of tunnel vision and have been that brain washed?


you're acting like it'd be an epidemic of potheads. that's like saying there'd be an epidemic of alcoholics because alcohol is legal. i've known people who bootleg too! so it's not like the idea of making your own is that far-fetched.....actually from what i understand it's pretty easy. the same goes with marijuana. the same laws on who can grow and how much and all are the same. the same age restrictions and restrictions on driving while intoxicated.


you really are deluded if you think that the legalization of marijuana would do any more than let a lot of people out of jail who shouldn't be in there in the first place.


....and i must ask: what did people do before 1920? that's when it was made illegal and the propaganda of reefer madness came out and was popular and influential in the vote on the legality of the substance. was there a giant pot epidemic? can you trace to anywhere in history where there was a pot epidemic short of the recent history of the substance in the US which is mainly hyped up by goverment propaganda.

look at reality, not propaganda.




and what do you mean by that crack of pink brain washed monkey? is that some kind of racist slang?



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13 Apr 2006, 1:02 pm

You are more interested in your high then future generations.

More so, you have pot head tunnel vision.



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13 Apr 2006, 7:55 pm

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You are more interested in your high then future generations.

More so, you have pot head tunnel vision.


you've yet to address the issue of it being illegal and therefore being more dangerous for the users. the drug itself is less dangerous than the situation people can get put into by the drug. jail itself is extremely dangerous for people who smoke pot considering that a majority of potheads are non-violent people and they would be put in with violent, hardened criminals.


i think you can't see past your nose on this issue and lack any kind of real-life experience with it.